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#2058895 - 11/07/09 06:10 PM No farm system
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Why do the Yanks even have a farm system? They just go out and buy what they need. Being a player in the Yanks farm system has got to be a kind of death sentence for a minor leaguer.

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#2058901 - 11/07/09 06:18 PM Re: No farm system [Re: a47mlb]
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You're right, why have a farm system when you have a great one called the Minnesota Twins.
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#2058904 - 11/07/09 06:25 PM Re: No farm system [Re: CRAZYEYES]
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The entire league is the Yanks farm system.

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#2059044 - 11/07/09 10:24 PM Re: No farm system [Re: a47mlb]
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I generally agree except if your a minor leaguer and are any good in their system you will get traded to a team where you will play in the bigs.

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#2059090 - 11/07/09 11:33 PM Re: No farm system [Re: a47mlb]
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Originally Posted By: a47mlb
The entire league is the Yanks farm system.



Good point. Teams like the Royals, Twins, Mariners, Indians, etc draft these guys, bring them up and when they get good they go to the Yankees. Aside from a very small handful of guys this years team is made up of guys from other teams.

CC- Indians
Burnett- Mariners
AROD- Mariners
Damon- Royals
Teixeira- Rangers/Angels
Molina- Cubs
Swisher- A's
Hinske- Jays
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#2059113 - 11/08/09 01:38 AM Re: No farm system [Re: zamboni]
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Alot of those guys played for other teams before the yanks got them...sabathia from milwaukee, burnett from toronto, damon from boston, and a-roid from texas (who payed him the huge amount, yanks just traded for him).

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#2059173 - 11/08/09 09:35 AM Re: No farm system [Re: JBMasterAngler]
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Yea, you have to wonder how much $$ the Yanks could save by shutting down their farm system. They don't need them, they don't need players to trade. They just sit back, wait for someone to get old or injured, and then paruse the league for the best at whatever position needed, and slide a blank check across the desk and tell them to fill in the blanks. Heck, by shutting down the farm system, the sky would be the limit. Like it ain't already.

I heard someone on the radio the other day say that cheering for the Yankees is like cheering for Microsoft. Ain't that the truth.

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#2059266 - 11/08/09 12:37 PM Re: No farm system [Re: a47mlb]
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Derek Jeter
Robinson Cano
Melkey Cabrera
Andy Petite
Mariano Rivera
Joba Chamberlain
Jorge Posada
Phil Hughes

These are just the bigger name players that are currently playing for the Yankees who came up through the Yankees minor league system in one way or another. There are actually more than this on the active roster.

Posada, Jeter, Hughes and Chamberlain were all draft picks by the Yankees also.

I'm no Yankee's fan but this list of prospects looks pretty impressive to me.

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#2059277 - 11/08/09 01:16 PM Re: No farm system [Re: zamboni]
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Originally Posted By: zamboni
Originally Posted By: a47mlb
The entire league is the Yanks farm system.



Good point. Teams like the Royals, Twins, Mariners, Indians, etc draft these guys, bring them up and when they get good they go to the Yankees. Aside from a very small handful of guys this years team is made up of guys from other teams.

CC- Indians
Burnett- Mariners
AROD- Mariners
Damon- Royals
Teixeira- Rangers/Angels
Molina- Cubs
Swisher- A's
Hinske- Jays


Every team has a list at least that long of players who came to that team via free agency or trades. Here is the Twins list of players who did not come up through the farm system. These are just the players I can think of off the top of my head:

Delmon Young
Joe Crede
Orlando Cabrera
Nick Punto
Joe Nathan
Carl Povano
Mike Redmond
JJ Hardy
Brendan Harris

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#2059870 - 11/09/09 08:54 AM Re: No farm system [Re: Big Dave2]
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Originally Posted By: Big Dave2
Every team has a list at least that long of players who came to that team via free agency or trades. Here is the Twins list of players who did not come up through the farm system. These are just the players I can think of off the top of my head:

Delmon Young
Joe Crede
Orlando Cabrera
Nick Punto
Joe Nathan
Carl Povano
Mike Redmond
JJ Hardy
Brendan Harris


BUT, I would take CC, Burnett, Arod, Damon, Teix, etc... over the list of Twins players that you mentioned.

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#2059956 - 11/09/09 10:50 AM Re: No farm system [Re: kg2]
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Well.......who wouldn't?

I'm just making a point that NO team is made up entirely of farm system guys. Every club has a pretty long list of guys that did not come up through the system. That does not mean that the Twins should shut down their farm system.

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#2059992 - 11/09/09 11:50 AM Re: No farm system [Re: Big Dave2]
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The original point by the OP...:

Yanks don't really need a farm system when they spend big bucks for the best free agents. Somehow you equated this to Young, Crede, Cabrera, Harris, etc...

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#2060007 - 11/09/09 12:05 PM Re: No farm system [Re: kg2]
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The thing that the Yankees do so very well is keep their players. Very rarely are you going to see their players going somewhere else for more money because its just not there. They target their core group of players and compensate them very well; for that they are asked to play and behave a certain way- totally professional and poised. And if they need more pieces to fit the puzzle they have the revenue stream to go out and get what they want. Understand that there is tremendous pressure playing for the Yankees also, if you screw up in a game the media, both local and national let you have it. I guess it's all part of playing for the team.

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#2060015 - 11/09/09 12:11 PM Re: No farm system [Re: kg2]
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Originally Posted By: kg2
The original point by the OP...:

Yanks don't really need a farm system when they spend big bucks for the best free agents. Somehow you equated this to Young, Crede, Cabrera, Harris, etc...


Did you notice my post before this that listed all of the key players the Yankees have that came up through their system?

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#2060049 - 11/09/09 12:49 PM Re: No farm system [Re: Big Dave2]
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Exactly, someone questions the number of key players the Yanks buy and you compare that with mediocre talent signing by other teams. Your "every club" comment is just white noise and not pertinent to the OP.

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