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#2058608 - 11/06/09 09:43 PM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
[Re: PrimeTime82]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 07/05/06
Posts: 770
Loc: Cannon Falls, MN
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Blackdog, no need to apologize. I can see now how my post may have been taken wrong. And as for this last post:
"So was this Buck Poached or is there PROOF it was shot Legit?? I also know the guy personally and I'll never EVER believe it until theres ABSOLUTE PROOF! GREAT BUCK....Its a shame who shot it....I'll leave it at that...."
I have a question for you. How many deer have you ever taken with a bow where you had an eye witness? In all my years I can think of one - when my 7 yr old son sat with me and he rattled in a 100" 8 pt for me. I normally wouldn't shoot that class of deer, but he wanted me to take it pretty bad, and I'll admit it was good for him to see. He's been hooked ever since. But to your point, how do you figure you're ever going to get absolute proof? The only way I know is if somebody sat with him, and I'm saying that's not very likely for any bowhunter. And by the way, I'm not commenting on the hunter, his ethics, or the scenario at all, I don't know him. But as Wanderer says, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, you know, innocent until proven guilty. I'd hate to see someone come out with a bunch of negative things about any of you shooting a nice deer. My comments and appreciation are for the buck at this point.
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#2058617 - 11/06/09 09:55 PM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
[Re: propster]
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HotSpotOutdoors Family
Registered: 11/05/09
Posts: 39
Loc: Red Wing
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I think what he meant by proof would be something like did he go get anyone to help track the deer? Did anyone get to see the carcass that is educated? Was anyone else in the woods with him? Where's the carcass now and can you tell if it was shot with bow? There's plenty of proof out there besides someone actually sitting in your tree with you.
Or how about his friends and family that know he already shot a buck and doe with his bow this year? Last I looked you can only harvest one buck! In a small town where you have friends and family everywhere its pretty hard to pull the wool over everyones eyes. But your right everyone is innocent until proven guilty, and even sometimes when your guilty there is no proof.
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#2058643 - 11/06/09 10:37 PM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 08/18/09
Posts: 463
Loc: St Francis,MN
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This thread got interesting.
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#2058968 - 11/07/09 07:59 PM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 05/10/08
Posts: 406
Loc: southern minnesota
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No I just lost interest in this thread
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#2059949 - 11/09/09 10:43 AM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
[Re: walleyehunter80]
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Sr IceLeaders Family
Registered: 01/01/07
Posts: 1493
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so whats up? why hasn't this deer been in the local newspaper or on the news or even talked about like still_huntin mentioned? only thing i've heard is the dnr think the deer was poached now and are investigating it....any truth behind that?
you really would think the new world record 8 pointer shot with bow in our very own back yards would bring much more hype then this...its as if it never even happened!!
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#2059988 - 11/09/09 11:45 AM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 12/29/05
Posts: 508
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
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One of two things:
1. Legal issues and no good press.
2. The hunter has been offered some compensation for the rights to an exclusive story by a publisher.
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#2060156 - 11/09/09 02:50 PM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 03/09/07
Posts: 905
Loc: todd county
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as soon as anyone mentions anything about possible world record, for anything, its like a huge wave of jealousy swarms over some/most people, and they can't say anything possitive about that possible record entry! don't belittle the animal by complaining how it was taken. until there is any proof of whether or not it was poached, give the guy SOME credit! with ALL record entries, they have to verify how and when, and where the animal was taken! for fish, they sample scales to verify it grew in a natural body of water ya know.
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#2060302 - 11/09/09 05:45 PM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
[Re: Still_Huntin]
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HotSpotOutdoors Specialist
Registered: 02/05/07
Posts: 1486
Loc: Isanti, MN
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Or how about his friends and family that know he already shot a buck and doe with his bow this year? Last I looked you can only harvest one buck!
Whatever a person's opinion is on this, they have a right to it, however in MN it is legal to party hunt bucks. That does mean someone with an open tag should have been afield with him at the time. Still_Huntin, welcome to HSO/FM. We'll see what shakes out in the time to come regarding the hunter and the take of this deer. I hope you stick around after it all settles though. We don't like to bash folks on here (unless its good-natured  ), especially before the truth is known. You may very well be correct in your suspicions but I hope we can leave it there until we know more.
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#2060339 - 11/09/09 06:22 PM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
[Re: Chef]
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HotSpotOutdoors Family
Registered: 11/05/09
Posts: 39
Loc: Red Wing
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1. Legal issues and no good press.
I think we have a winner! Story has it DNR went to recover the big 8 carcass and found the other 2 untagged and unregistered carcass's also. So far it sounds like it was taken with bow but the hunter did illegally take the other 2 deer which means the big 8 was also illegal! There was a whole lot of meat in the freezer for no deer being tagged!! Can anyone challenge the story? I've yet to hear one good thing come of this yet.
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#2060666 - 11/10/09 12:15 AM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
[Re: Still_Huntin]
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FishingMN Family
Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 18
Loc: s.e. minnesota
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Was at the taxidermist today and they told me the dnr was there and picked up the rack from them. Also said they took the body/ meat from the guy. Not sure what all that was about but yes a very large rack.
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#2060671 - 11/10/09 12:40 AM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
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Registered: 01/29/06
Posts: 119
Loc: Cloquet, Mn
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heck of an animal. really a shame if taken illegally, if not congrats the hunter.
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#2060739 - 11/10/09 07:53 AM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
[Re: propster]
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HotSpotOutdoors Family
Registered: 07/07/03
Posts: 47
Loc: Zumbrota, Minnesota, USA
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Blackdog, no need to apologize. I can see now how my post may have been taken wrong. And as for this last post:
"So was this Buck Poached or is there PROOF it was shot Legit?? I also know the guy personally and I'll never EVER believe it until theres ABSOLUTE PROOF! GREAT BUCK....Its a shame who shot it....I'll leave it at that...."
I have a question for you. How many deer have you ever taken with a bow where you had an eye witness? In all my years I can think of one - when my 7 yr old son sat with me and he rattled in a 100" 8 pt for me. I normally wouldn't shoot that class of deer, but he wanted me to take it pretty bad, and I'll admit it was good for him to see. He's been hooked ever since. But to your point, how do you figure you're ever going to get absolute proof? The only way I know is if somebody sat with him, and I'm saying that's not very likely for any bowhunter. And by the way, I'm not commenting on the hunter, his ethics, or the scenario at all, I don't know him. But as Wanderer says, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, you know, innocent until proven guilty. I'd hate to see someone come out with a bunch of negative things about any of you shooting a nice deer. My comments and appreciation are for the buck at this point. propster it seems like you know alot about this story, maybe you could help us shed some light on what is fact or fiction?
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#2060837 - 11/10/09 08:56 AM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
[Re: finny]
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HotSpotOutdoors Family
Registered: 11/05/09
Posts: 39
Loc: Red Wing
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The real story should come out soon, it isn't a good sign when the DNR takes away your rack, the body, and all the meat in your freezer. It wasn't just the big 8 meat it was the other two deer he shot earlier in the year also.
All you can say is karma caught up to this guy again. Stay legit out there folks, just imagine how the best thing to ever happen in your life can turn into the worse thing in your life overnight!
I know a guy that went and registered his deer at the local station and DNR was there and they said this buck was taken illegally, they didn't go into detail about it being with a gun or bow, but either way you can't shoot 2 other deer and not tag/register them then turn around and shoot a world record 8 pointer and slide it under the rug.
For everyone defending this guy what do you got?
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#2060924 - 11/10/09 10:22 AM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
[Re: Still_Huntin]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 12/29/05
Posts: 508
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
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I don't think they're defending the guy, per-se, they're defending the right to not be judged unfairly.
This story is evelving into a similar one about the youg guys who shot the enormous Buck in Canada a few years back after legal shooting hours and had to forefit the Deer and the right to be proud of a legal hunt.
With all the noteriety these days given a hunter who bags the next "biggest" animal, the temptation to cheat is too strong for some. Greed and Ego are a bad cocktail.
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#2061448 - 11/10/09 07:17 PM
Re: Largest 8 pointer ever
[Re: Chef]
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HotSpotOutdoors Family
Registered: 11/05/09
Posts: 39
Loc: Red Wing
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I agree Chef
I wonder what kind of trouble this poacher is going to get into? I just read an article on the news that said how poaching has been a rising problem in MN, I hope they make an example out of this guy!!
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