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#1935026 - 07/04/09 11:36 AM
Re: bottom bouncers?
[Re: bmc]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 907
Loc: 55082 - MN
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We never used BB's more than 1 ounce and trolled, or long lined, them more than it appears that MN's do from what I've been reading. If I'm out with a couple people running BB's, I usually run one set back like you're saying. At times I'll run 6 rods with 3 different sizes of BB. Linecounters are awesome for this application. Last year a leech/spinner got the biggest fish in my boat, my buddy was joking about how far back his bait was before he snagged up. walk out 100' of line to make sure both combos are set the same. It's pretty easy to get them dialed in to within 1' at 100', usually pretty spot on past 180'. The best way is to spool your backer outside with 100' staked out exactly. You leave the spool attached and check your backer before cutting and spooling your 'trolling' line; if your backer is anywhere around 98-100' at 100' any line after that should be dead on.
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#1935130 - 07/04/09 04:20 PM
Re: bottom bouncers?
[Re: Dahitman44]
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HotSpotOutdoors Pro Staff
Registered: 12/02/01
Posts: 7374
Loc: Minnesotax
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Man I have enjoyed this thread. GREAT information and I am excited to try the "BB"
Question though -- when in the rod holders -- do they usually set themselves -- like running raps or do we set the hook after we see it bounce?
Speed -- sounds like a big variety? - -.75 to 1.5 mph?
I plan on using my baitcaster rapin rods with line counters -- sounds like a variety of length on the snells as well?
I am pretty pumped to try this - -any other thoughts? They can set the hook themselves pretty well in a holder. Running speed varies and is somewhat dependent on what kind of spinner used. You want the spinner to, well, spin! I primarily use Colorado blades which have a nice thump in the water and run anywhere from 1-1.5 mph, but usually around the 1.2 mph speed. Get the spinner thumping and then let the fish tell you what they want. If they're striking the last hook or if you're getting a lot of misses it might be worth slowing down a tad, but in July/Aug when spinners shine the fish will be fairly aggressive anyway. I usually use a spinning reel/rod but a baitcast setup is probably a better match for bottom bouncing...especially with a reel that has a flipping switch to let out line easily when changing depths. A medium rod seems to work better especially in snaggy areas where you can give the rod a flip and break free from the snag a lot of times. Running a bigger blade will create more drag and a stiffer backbone helps here as well. I went out today and determined that cranks weren't working so I put on a 3/8ths oz bouncer with a chart/org blade and got walleye in the same spots I had just been pulling cranks through. They decided that they wanted the juicy crawler today! First time with the BB's this summer and it was nice to get back into the swing of things again. Here's a picture of my spinner making box. Kind of a mess but it's getting full.
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#1935384 - 07/05/09 09:18 AM
Re: bottom bouncers?
[Re: bmc]
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HotSpotOutdoors Specialist
Registered: 01/06/04
Posts: 4747
Loc: Minnetrista and Itasca County
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If you're using more than one rod/line counter combo, when you're at home hook up the lines to something and walk out 100' of line to make sure both combos are set the same. I'd guess there might be quite a bit of difference between combo's. I know last night trolling cranks w/ my daughter, I was catching fish w/ 86' of line out. She was using a different line counter set at 86' and she didn't have nearly the action that I did. I have to check them to see if they're close or not. Brian The key to having your line counters read the same is to use the same kind of reels with the same exact line on them, and to have them filled to capacity with the same amount of line on each reel. If you have different brands or even sizes of reels, you'll likely get a bit of a difference. Having different diameter lines on the reels or having differing amounts of line on each reel will for sure give you differences. I check my line counters a few times each year. With my boat in my garage and my rods in the rod holders my mailbox is 120 feet away from my boat. All my reels --- even different size reels and with different lines on them --- read 118 to 122 when I pull them to my mailbox, which is close enough for me. I think a lot of guys worry too much about small differences in the number of feet out --- you can easily adjust your amount of line out on each reel to offset for the small differences. In your situation where 1 line was doing better than the other, the first thing I would do is try tuning the non-performing bait to make sure it's running right. After that I'd try more or less line out on that rod, or try a different bait on that rod, or even try changing the 2 baits between the 2 rods.
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#1935727 - 07/05/09 08:31 PM
Re: bottom bouncers?
[Re: Fuzzbient]
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Sr HotSpotOutdoors Family
Registered: 12/28/03
Posts: 4675
Loc: Hawley, MN 56549
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Love this thread ... Excellent job to everyone I am learning a lot.
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Edited by Dahitman44 (07/05/09 08:31 PM)
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#1947393 - 07/16/09 10:30 PM
Re: bottom bouncers?
[Re: Ray1]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 05/01/09
Posts: 464
Loc: az
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anybody ever use one while trying to shore fish?
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#1948185 - 07/17/09 03:16 PM
Re: bottom bouncers?
[Re: jeffreyd]
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Sr IceLeaders Family
Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 2254
Loc: Long Prairie, MN, USA
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Sort of... I was in a boat anchored in the Mississippi down by the dam at Red Wing. I tied on a bottom bouncer to stay out of the rocks with a floater & a minnow on a 4-6' leader. I cast that down stream & just tight lined it back to the boat moving it once a while. It was pretty deadly, but hard to cast without twisting it all up. You had to just kind of lob cast it.
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