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#1933509 - 07/01/09 11:31 PM
Inmates get a free fishing license.
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Registered: 02/08/08
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Did you know? I think this is sick... A meth dealer can get a free license when on parole or leave.
97A.445 EXEMPTIONS FROM LICENSE REQUIREMENT.
Subd. 2.Angling; institutional residents.
A license is not required to take fish by angling with the written consent of the superintendent or chief executive of the institution for the following persons:
(1) a resident of a state hospital;
(2) a patient of a United States Veterans Administration hospital;
(3) an inmate of a state correctional facility;
(4) a resident of a licensed nursing or boarding care home, a person who is enrolled in and regularly participates in an adult day care program or other similar organized activity sponsored by a licensed nursing or boarding care home, or a resident of a licensed board and lodging facility; and
(5) a resident of a drug or alcohol residential treatment program under the age of 20.
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#1933724 - 07/02/09 09:32 AM
Re: Inmates get a free fishing license.
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Of course, do they get opportunities to use their free license?
edit: scratch that question. This is really stupid.
Edited by BobT (07/02/09 09:33 AM)
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#1934571 - 07/03/09 11:21 AM
Re: Inmates get a free fishing license.
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(5) a resident of a drug or alcohol residential treatment program under the age of 20.
This one I agree with. Get those young guys out fishin!
(3) an inmate of a state correctional facility;
This one is ludicrous! What kind of punishment is fishing?
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#1934931 - 07/04/09 08:52 AM
Re: Inmates get a free fishing license.
[Re: rushing]
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I don't have any problem giving the inmates a free license.
It has been proven that the better one treats these convicts, the better the chance they will make it after they serve their term.
I would rather have them make it on the outside after they are released than to have them go back to jail again.
Its costly to keep these people as inmates.
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#1935068 - 07/04/09 01:00 PM
Re: Inmates get a free fishing license.
[Re: harvey lee]
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Beat a dog with a stick it will bite back. Give a dog treats for a job well done he will be a content puppy. Now do not this to literally but it does have some merit. I believe rehabilitation should be focused on rather than punishment.
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#1935299 - 07/05/09 02:31 AM
Re: Inmates get a free fishing license.
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Rehab works. One can look at the rate of repeat offenders in Minnesota and then compare with those in other states.
One can treat them like an animal which does not work as they will be someones neighbor one day.
I realize that they are in jail and have very few rights but as I stated, the majority will be on the streets again and hopefully if we treat them like a human being, they may do ok after they are released.
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#1935408 - 07/05/09 09:41 AM
Re: Inmates get a free fishing license.
[Re: harvey lee]
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I am all for doin whatever we can for youth offenders to try to get them back on the right path but once those youth offenders turn into repeat adult offenders...well you cant rehabilitate stupidity.
One shouldn't act like an animal if they wish not to be treated as such.
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#1935414 - 07/05/09 09:50 AM
Re: Inmates get a free fishing license.
[Re: rushing]
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What I'm trying to say Rob is that if we put a person in jail and then the prision treats the inmates poorly, they will be that way when they get out.
If they are treated with some respect, hopefully they will work their way back into society. I agree you earn respect but there are jails in this country that are not very respectful to their inmates and when they come out, they will have a huge chip on their shoulder.
I'm not saying either that inmates should have every right in jail as they are there for a reason but one cannot treat them like dirt.
Yes, if they are adult offenders, then whatever happens, happens.
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#1935449 - 07/05/09 10:51 AM
Boils my bloodRe: Inmates get a free fishing license.
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Yeah the is a habitual criminal (methhead and thief) that lives by my work and is walking down to the river everyday to go fishing while I am hard @ worl which makes me mad anyway now I hear he probably has a free license this is [PoorWordUsage] I haven't even been able to buy a fishing license cause I can't afford it my wife lost her job and my two kids are over 16 yup this really
Edited by BK19 (07/05/09 10:55 AM)
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#1935453 - 07/05/09 11:00 AM
Re: Inmates get a free fishing license.
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A very good friend of mine found him self in a major mess 3-4 years ago. Very down to earth, nice guy with a great job, nice house, wife and two kids. I lost touch with him as he sunk into bad times. He lost everything and was facing some major hurtles in the court system when he started to call me again. Still not knowing if he was going to spend many years of his life in jail, his lawyer was able to get him into treatment, instead of the county jail. During this time he had no money other than what went to the lawyers. Hard to even imagine this could happen to someone that did so well for himself and family, but it does happen.
Talking to him on the phone I found out the one thing he could get was a fishing lic. (I think it is only a daily one, not a year long one) from the front desk. His lawyer also worked it out that he could leave the rehab center for fishing. Well as soon as I heard this I got some poles together and headed up their. We just went shore fishing and only about a hand of times, but it was a steer in the right direction.
Today he is back with his family, saved his house from going back to the bank and even got his old job back. He worked hard, got threw it and is living a great life again. He pretty much lost all his friends also and most of his family had lost any hope and trust in him. Funny how that also can happen when someone hits rock bottom but I figure it is part of the deal. I just wanted to help him (he has done many things for me in the past from helping me build my house, to helping me when I was in over my head with a relatives house remodel project and many many other things over the years). I figured the least I could do was go fishing and provide a postive and good time to help him deal with what could happen at his upcoming court date.
So I give this program a big thumbs up. If it helped my friend in any way I am not sure. I have to think it did. Will it work for everyone? I am sure not. He still fishes now and has kept out of trouble. God for bid I ever found myself in his shoes, I know being able to fish would help me keep on the right track.
For inmates maybe they have a fishing day or something.
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#1935457 - 07/05/09 11:07 AM
Re: Inmates get a free fishing license.
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Thats great to hear Shack. No, it won't work for everyone but it will or may help those who are willing to help themselves.
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