ok. i understand that part now, so do u just use a plain hook and a minnow, or a jig with a minnow? any split shots to have some weight or no?

Should always have some weight either via the lure or split shot. Unlike traditional bobber guys (split shot & hook), guys use just about anything, but typically tip with a live minnow. Spoons, jigs, plain hook, etc. If the bite is neutral to negative, some may tip the lure with a minnow head, waxie/euros, and have heard of guys using small plastics like a Little Atom Nuggie (they have very flimsey tales that will move with any slight water movement).

alrighty thanks for the help. ill try it out.

Many times I will use one line for jigging to get them to come in. I will also have a deadstick down so if they want a non moving bait, they will hit the deadstick. I have found this to work very well in combination with a jigging rod. On the deadstick, I will have a plain hook with a couple small splitshot and a live minnow. As stated above, a good deadstick will have a light action tip that will acutally show the minnow wiggle the tip of the rod.

two good rods for this would be Thorne's Bros deadstick and jason Mitchell's meatstick. I use both and they are both very good rods for this type fishing.

i have a frabil bro series quick tip. will this work?

Not familiar with that rod - if is described as a noodle rod, or the tip is very soft (typically fiberglass tip) then it will likely work. Since you are typically watch the tip for movement to detect bites, it is best to have a colored tip to make it easier to see. Another option would be to have a spring bobber on the rod.

If your Bro series is none of the above, you can look at picking up a Rod Rocker II or something similar and use it with your rod.

The Bro quick tip is the same concept as the Meatstick so, yes, it should work.

alrighty thank you

maybe im slow but i use any kind of rod and put it on my rockin rod rod holder...