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#1614187 - 11/29/08 01:49 PM Re: 30-06 [Re: Tim_Anderson]
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Loc: North Metro
Get a .270 and shoot 130 gr. out of it and you will be very pleased every time you see it drop the animal. Which is most all of the time for me... Stainless what??? Not needed IMHO.

Win. model 70 Bolt action .270
Leupold 3x9 Vari X 3
Federal 130 gr. Fusion bullets
Great results every time.
What more can you ask in a deer rifle out to 300 yds??? Maybe even further if I were to need to shoot that far?
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#1614627 - 11/29/08 09:11 PM Re: 30-06 [Re: JIGGIN']
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Originally Posted By: JIGGIN'
Get a .270 and shoot 130 gr. out of it and you will be very pleased every time you see it drop the animal. Which is most all of the time for me... Stainless what??? Not needed IMHO.

Win. model 70 Bolt action .270
Leupold 3x9 Vari X 3
Federal 130 gr. Fusion bullets
Great results every time.
What more can you ask in a deer rifle out to 300 yds??? Maybe even further if I were to need to shoot that far?


I second that Jiggn' I have a Howa .270 and is a tack driver with
the Federal 130 gr. Fusions.


Edited by Hooliganz (11/29/08 09:11 PM)
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#1614844 - 11/29/08 11:40 PM Re: 30-06 [Re: looneyducer]
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Originally Posted By: looneyducer
The original poster was asking about an automatic 30-06 in stainless, and somebody asked about 220 grain bullets. None of this makes sense. Stainless and synthetic are tough, and don't need the kind of carefull care that fine wood and blued steel do -- fine -- but automatics need that kind of care anyway. A 30-06 reciever is long, and putting it in an automatic only makes it longer, causing a shorter barrel if you need to swing the thing, and thereby reducing accuracy. It's far better suited in a bolt, especially in a beefy model like your 700.


That's a good explanation for the reasoning behind your previous post. Thanks for the follow up and please disregard my previous smart aleck remark.

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#1614858 - 11/29/08 11:58 PM Re: 30-06 [Re: lenny7]
Fredd Offline
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Go for the new BAR or Benelli and stay away from the Boss system. I have the Boss on my A-Bolt and have put the unported solid one on because of the noise factor.

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#1615160 - 11/30/08 10:41 AM Re: 30-06 [Re: lenny7]
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Originally Posted By: lenny7
Originally Posted By: looneyducer
The original poster was asking about an automatic 30-06 in stainless, and somebody asked about 220 grain bullets. None of this makes sense. Stainless and synthetic are tough, and don't need the kind of carefull care that fine wood and blued steel do -- fine -- but automatics need that kind of care anyway. A 30-06 reciever is long, and putting it in an automatic only makes it longer, causing a shorter barrel if you need to swing the thing, and thereby reducing accuracy. It's far better suited in a bolt, especially in a beefy model like your 700.


That's a good explanation for the reasoning behind your previous post. Thanks for the follow up and please disregard my previous smart aleck remark.


I should have been more clear from the get-go. My bad.

It really does make the most sense as a set-up, not that even that is going to make me stray away from my .270 anytime soon. Those other two guys make a good point about their 270s and 130 grain bullets. Again, 3,000 feet per second, ballpark. Almost all the killingest loads run right in there: 100 grain in a .243, 130 in a .270, 150 in a .30-06, 180 in a .300 Winchester... Those are the standard loads for four out of the five most popular calibers in North America. I don't think that is coincidence. You watch: the 7mm08 is going to join them. It's ballistically smack dab between the 270 and the 06, but with the cartridge length of a .243. How could you go wrong?

Personally, I want one in a Remington Model 7 just for starting all my neices and nephews out on.

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#1615526 - 11/30/08 04:14 PM Re: 30-06 [Re: looneyducer]
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Originally Posted By: looneyducer
Personally, I want one in a Remington Model 7 just for starting all my neices and nephews out on.


I'll have to check them out when it comes time to buy son a high-power rifle.

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#1615597 - 11/30/08 04:59 PM Re: 30-06 [Re: lenny7]
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I've been rolling around the idea of purchasing a rifle for whitetail but not quite sure what cal to go with. I'd be hunting in ND so longer distance shots are a very real possibility, and most likely the norm rather than the exception. My dad has been shooting a 25-06 for years and it knocks them down quite nicely, yet you hardly hear any discussion about that round. I'm thinking 25-06, 270, or 7mm-08 is where I'll end up. Not sure which of the three will be the winner in the end.

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#1615994 - 11/30/08 08:48 PM Re: 30-06 [Re: LMITOUT]
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Registered: 05/11/08
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here's where we could debate til we're blue in the face about calibers. The 25.06 has been around since 1920 in custom made guns and brought onto the market around 1969 by Remington. .06 brass can be full lenght resized in the 25.06 dies as well as .270 brass with some lenght trimming. It does give a shooter some good varmit rounds and up to 120 grain for deer, antelope but, alittle limited on ranges over 250 because of downrange energy loss. Muzzle velocities of 2700- 3000 can be reached with judicious loading practices. It is a pretty popular caliber out here in SoDak. I'm goin to say that overall, the 25-.06 is somewhat snubbed because the big boys in the magazine publishing business and TV sponsors push the BIGGER belted and short Mags. It's called commmercialism. After the market is saturated with common calibers they have to come out with something to move new and "improved" products. I shoot .270, .06 & .243 depending on where I am goin to be. After that being said, the 25-.06 is an excellent choice within it's limitations. I'll say this again, a 20.00 investment in a reloading manual will give a person all he needs to know about particular calibers, the history and ballistics.

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#1616013 - 11/30/08 08:56 PM Re: 30-06 [Re: paul pachowicz]
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Thanks for the reply. I never thought about a reloading manual for ballistic information. I'll have to do some snooping around for one.

A few years ago I was hunting with my dad and we spotted a buck almost 400 yds out. He was looking at it through his scope and I through the binoculars. I told him not to shoot because it was too far. I think I unintentionally issued a challenge because a few seconds later I heard the single-shot 25-06 bark and a split second later the hide on the buck ruffled and down he went after a short hop to his right. I wouldn't have believed it unless I saw it with my own eyes. Factory ammo too. I still remember the delay in what seemed seconds from when the gun fired until the buck was hit. Dad was sure proud of that shot, and he should be!

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#1617368 - 12/01/08 04:04 PM Re: 30-06 [Re: LMITOUT]
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Registered: 11/24/07
Posts: 206
Loc: MN
I decided to go with a .270 WSM. I got that cal. in a Browning Stainless Stalker. I can't wait to shoot this rifle. I topped it with a Zeiss scope. I will post a pic when the wife opens her x-mas gift. I new digital camera.

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#1617539 - 12/01/08 05:42 PM Re: 30-06 [Re: The_King48]
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Registered: 10/27/07
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Loc: Ada, Minnesota
Nice choice, and a great caliber!

I think I might be just a little jealous...

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#1619913 - 12/02/08 06:48 PM Re: 30-06 [Re: Ferny]
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Registered: 12/02/08
Posts: 2
Loc: prior lake mn
hi, new poster here!! '
just wondering if you knew where i could get help/ info on tearing down my 742 auto. its older and is past due i am sure. also the forearm is cracked and i need a replacement (used?) THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR ANY INFO!

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#1619921 - 12/02/08 06:55 PM Re: 30-06 [Re: 87racer]
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Registered: 12/02/01
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Welcome to Fishing Minnesota 87racer!

Sorry, I can't help you with your question but I'm guessing someone else will chime in with some suggestions.

Just wanted to say

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#1620913 - 12/03/08 08:52 AM Re: 30-06 [Re: LMITOUT]
looneyducer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/07
Posts: 258
Loc: Ada, Minnesota
If you drop the magazine and push out both pins holding the trigger assembly in, you can do an effective enough job cleaning out the bolt mechanism with some gun scrubber and Q-tips. You'll also want to use gunscrubber on the tube and spring assembly inside the forearm, but you do want to make sure you put plenty of oil back on there, as both the rod and the spring have a tendency to rust.

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#1624431 - 12/04/08 08:16 PM Re: 30-06 [Re: looneyducer]
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Registered: 12/02/08
Posts: 2
Loc: prior lake mn
thank you both. this seems to be a great forum!! are the pins suppose to be tapped out with a punch?? also are there any special tools needed to fully disassemble to get to the gas ports?? thanks again!

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