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#1618311 - 12/02/08 01:49 AM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: Sandmannd]
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Originally Posted By: Sandmannd
I wouldn't mind McNabb. I think they should get a decent vet and bring up a young QB the right way. Like what they did in Dallas.


If Chilly is still here, i wouldn't be surprised for him to pull another from his Philly connnection.
Mcnabb might have a few years left, kinda like Gus grin

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#1618312 - 12/02/08 01:56 AM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: MuleShack]
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McNabb has more than a few years left guys! he has been around for 10 years im pretty most good QB's last more around 15, and dont even tell me McNabb is not a good QB... I can only hope he comes to MN

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#1618364 - 12/02/08 06:25 AM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: Andrew Groskreutz]
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As a Packer fan I laugh routinely at the Vikes QB situation. I also get a chuckle when I hear you guys say...GET SOMEONE PROVEN. How you guys are in first place is a mystery to me.
Here is a thought. How about evaluating talent, developing a draft board and drafting someone young and promising? (Wait, that was supposed to be T Jack right?)
The Pats haven't played anyone tough??? How about your schedule??? The Pack is the toughest team you guys have played.
My advice, take Cassel, maybe even look elsewhere besides trying to pick off the talent from the Pack or the Bears with money. Brett's not available, and Aron Rodgers won't be for a few years either. Feel free to pursue Grossman.....LOL Actually, I preffer to see Chilly stay, and keep saying he is developing TJack. By the time that guy gets it all together, he will have burned out AP.
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#1618831 - 12/02/08 10:23 AM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: Wade Joseph]
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Wow a Packer Fan actually coming out of the igloo... grin

Props to you!

I hope I have some time later to disect that post because there are quite few gimme's in that one!...

Go Vikes!
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#1619125 - 12/02/08 12:45 PM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: PierBridge]
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I would be happy to get things started Pier.

Wade when you say develop, do you mean like when they developed free agent contracts to sign Woodson, Chillar, and Pickett from other teams? Or maybe you mean develop, as in develop trade offers for guys like Ryan Grant or Al Harris?

The Packers 56 man roster includes 24 players (43%) that were either signed as free agents or received via trade. Those players include Cullen Jenkins, Bigby, Donald Lee, Tramon Williams and many others that play significant roles.

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#1619138 - 12/02/08 12:50 PM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: Wade Joseph]
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Originally Posted By: Wade Joseph
As a Packer fan I laugh routinely at the Vikes QB situation. I also get a chuckle when I hear you guys say...GET SOMEONE PROVEN. How you guys are in first place is a mystery to me.
Here is a thought. How about evaluating talent, developing a draft board and drafting someone young and promising? (Wait, that was supposed to be T Jack right?)
The Pats haven't played anyone tough??? How about your schedule??? The Pack is the toughest team you guys have played.
My advice, take Cassel, maybe even look elsewhere besides trying to pick off the talent from the Pack or the Bears with money. Brett's not available, and Aron Rodgers won't be for a few years either. Feel free to pursue Grossman.....LOL Actually, I preffer to see Chilly stay, and keep saying he is developing TJack. By the time that guy gets it all together, he will have burned out AP.


Well considering the Vikings and their QB situation are in first place and the packers are having one of their worst seasons in years, I think the QB situation is in more need of fixing in GB than in MN with the fact that the WR and TE talent level in GB is much higher than MN.

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#1619192 - 12/02/08 01:14 PM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: SledNeck]
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In more need of fixing the QB situation in GB, what are you smoking? What needs fixing in GB is the special teams unit and a few defensive positions, there is no problem with the QB there.
I have to ask what is wrong with Rodgers please explain...

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#1619216 - 12/02/08 01:23 PM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: Wade Joseph]
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Originally Posted By: Wade Joseph
The Pats haven't played anyone tough??? How about your schedule??? The Pack is the toughest team you guys have played.


Thank you for a good chuckle, I need one!! Lets see here, Indy was no gimmy, Saints are a tougher team, (you packer fans should remember), Carolina is a tough team, remember last Sunday?? You should really come back to reality and understand Greenbay is a third place team in this [PoorWordUsage] division.
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#1619275 - 12/02/08 01:43 PM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: walleyes12]
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Well said Wild
Rodgers Stats
91.2 257 404 63.6 2897 241.4 7.2 20 10
Gus Stats
76.1 171 291 58.8 2087 208.7 7.2 12 13

And the packers need a new QB why? Our Defense stinks plain and simple injuries and other stuff is killing the season and special teams.

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#1619305 - 12/02/08 01:58 PM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: mrklean]
walleyes12 Offline
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Didn't I hear the packers fans before the saints game brag about there secondary??
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#1619605 - 12/02/08 04:25 PM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: walleyes12]
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Its amazing how annoying packer fans are when their team is losing. I think I might like it better when they win so you dont have to listen to them whine! Actually I take that back the only thing better than the pack losing a game is the Vikes winning one.
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#1619672 - 12/02/08 04:50 PM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: OLY]
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i'm with koonie...i can think of a few qb's i'd rather have that will be available before i'd want cassel....a couple big passing days with the pats/moss/welker/ect doesn't prove anything.

i laugh at people who think the pats will keep cassel and trade brady...thats a good one...if thats the case i'll be happy with brady being a vike....name the price...if we got him we'd be silly good.

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#1619780 - 12/02/08 05:39 PM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: FISHINGURU]
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Hey Vikes fans...warning...when the vikes are winning, the band wagon gets full FAST! When they are loosing, its a runnaway empty wagon with a driver who is asleep at the reigns.

Enjoy the ride now. I am sure its not gonna last long, even if you do manage to win the division, Im guessing all your gonna do is put yourselves in a position to get beat in the first wildcard game.

What were the scores of the Vikes Pack games this year?

Oh, hmmm, longwell, Sharper...good thing you guys drafted those guys! [PoorWordUsage], besides AP who have the Vikes drafted?

Blind hog is bound to find an acorn once in a while.
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#1619832 - 12/02/08 06:04 PM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: Wade Joseph]
Brfive Offline
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Registered: 11/22/05
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Loc: Clara City, Mn
Don't listen to Koonie, he's mad that Cassel put up a 40 spot on him week 11 and knocked Koonie out of first in our fantasy league. whistle

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#1619893 - 12/02/08 06:36 PM Re: Matt Cassell.......a free agent!!! [Re: Brfive]
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Geez Wade, I thought there were some Viking fans behaving badly last year when the Pack won the division and had homefield throughout wrapped up. Now the Vikings do well and a few Packer Backers can only talk sour grapes...what a difference a month makes.

You asked the question so I'll answer it: the Vikings have drafted Pro Bowlers Kevin Williams, Matt Birk, and Adrian Peterson.

Now, I'll beat you to the counter, the Packers current roster has 4 Pro Bowlers that were drafted by the team. This year had E.J. Henderson not been hurt both teams probably would have sent 4 guys that their organizations drafted. I'd call the boons and busts of each team's draft history a wash. It's probably irrelevant who drafts who in this era of free agency and trades (Brett Favre anyone?) anyway. Good coaching and prudent front offices can make leaps and bounds in this league and win divisions, conference championships, and Lombardi trophies.

From your earlier post the Patriots played against the lowest rated strength of schedule at .387. The Vikings had the fourth high rated SOS, at .551. I would say that the Titans, Colts, and Panthers represent the class of the NFL, with the division leading Giants, Arizona, and Atlanta left to play. I don't think too many nonbitter Packer fans could call their team the toughest the Vikings have had to play this year.

Yes, the Vikings QB situation isn't where it should be for them to contend for a title, but it does take 11 players, not just one. I agree with your sentiments about poor coaching by Childress, but you and I have as much pull with management as we do with winning the Powerball. Heck, I don't think too many people on this board said that any NFC North teams were much to brag about this year!
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