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#1602773 - 11/21/08 08:39 AM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: big drift]
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Registered: 05/14/04
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#1602919 - 11/21/08 09:48 AM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: Eskimoman]
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Originally Posted By: Eskimoman
Sounds like everybody jumps on the dnr for a poor season. Crops were bad timing with the southern part of the state,weather was terrible, and last years winter, while not harsh was a little longer than those in the past.


I would think this is the case more than bad conservation.
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#1603608 - 11/21/08 03:53 PM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: 96trigger]
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Originally Posted By: 96trigger
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That would be your first mistake! Kidding ... Actually, license sales are not down. This year (not including 3B because the sales aren't complete), 417K people bought an 'A' season license compared to 415K last year. Also, bonus permits numbers are up from 160K to 180K (which is the same number that was sold when the all-season license came with 2 tags). But (to all you revenue fans out there), total revenue is DOWN as a result of eliminating the all-season deer and multi-zone buck license. I've said all along we were making people buy a license they didn't need and the change would benefit hunters to the tune of a $1M+ reduction in revenue. Looks like that may be the case.

That's it so far ...

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#1603694 - 11/21/08 04:35 PM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: Eskimoman]
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Will we see another spike in sales next week with guys buying their muzzle loader license???

I like the Ala-Carte approach because I do not bow hunt yet. I also have not bought my muzzle loader tag yet. So you can one more there.

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#1604319 - 11/22/08 05:31 AM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: swedishpimple]
lcornice Offline
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Originally Posted By: swedishpimple
Will we see another spike in sales next week with guys buying their muzzle loader license???

I like the Ala-Carte approach because I do not bow hunt yet. I also have not bought my muzzle loader tag yet. So you can one more there.


Without a doubt. People always wait until the last minute. As of Thu, I think only 15K have bought one. My best guess with All-season included last year was about 35K muzzleloaders statewide. Heck, I haven't bought mine yet!

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#1604436 - 11/22/08 09:32 AM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: lcornice]
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Registered: 04/27/08
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I'll be a last-minute muzzy buyer. I preferred the all-season tag.

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#1604464 - 11/22/08 10:12 AM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: fishinmajishin]
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Registered: 06/09/08
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What exactly is the DNR's goal for the deer population? I'd like to think that getting the entire state close to a managed area as possible. I see this as a good balance, enough deer to keep the hunters happy but not enough to cause any problems in each given area.

I think people get frustraited when they see wild swings from lotto to intensive harvest and back again.

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#1608699 - 11/25/08 01:12 PM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: fishinmajishin]
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Me too, but it makes more sense this way for the most part. A lot easier for Lou to know how many bowhunters, how many ML hunters, etc. I can also see guys not wanting to pay for the big license if they don't bowhunt. Now why they wouldn't want to bowhunt, that I can't really understand...
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#1624884 - 12/04/08 11:24 PM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: bigbucks]
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Registered: 12/02/08
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"DNR does an excellent job managing our resources."

Are you serious?

The MN DNR couldn't manage the titmouse population if they had a barrel full of cheese!

They pull these deer regulations out of their butt have no real idea of what is going on with local deer populations.

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#1624898 - 12/04/08 11:36 PM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: mn_archer]
hartner62 Offline
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mn_archer,
Personally, I think they are doing just fine. Maybe you just aren't the bow hunter you think you are. whistle

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#1624943 - 12/05/08 12:12 AM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: hartner62]
mn_archer Offline
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Registered: 12/02/08
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I've killed a few deer this year, i'm just saying that in the area I mainly hunt (170) you are allowed one either sex deer and up to 4 bonus tags- Stinking stupid is what that is. If you don't think so asl the local CO!

It is feast ot famine with this state. Next hyear it will be a lotto for a doe tag! lol

I have hunted for deer and elk in several states and we are one of the few where you automatically get a buck tag but have to apply for doe tags.

MN DNR has only managed for numbers in the past and now they can't even do that right.

For my job i travel the entire state 5 days a week. There are very few deer on the roads compared to even last year.


michael

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#1624949 - 12/05/08 12:22 AM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: mn_archer]
Jackpine Rob Offline
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Registered: 01/08/03
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Loc: stump creek, MN USA
Originally Posted By: mn_archer

For my job i travel the entire state 5 days a week. There are very few deer on the roads compared to even last year.
michael


Maybe, just maybe the deer numbers have dwindled as a result of all the cougars the DNR has been releasing. Now I'm not saying, but a friend of my brother-in-law's cousin says that the whole purpose of the cougar-release program is to knock back the deer numbers.

Could it be that this secret program is working?
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#1625214 - 12/05/08 08:30 AM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: Jackpine Rob]
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Registered: 06/03/03
Posts: 5062
Loc: Battle Lake & Big Lake MN USA
Cougar release program? laugh

Where do people come up with this stuff?
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#1625252 - 12/05/08 08:44 AM Re: DNR Consperiacy Theory-- Bonus & Managed Permits [Re: biglakeba$$]
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Its in the Greenbush Gazette.
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