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#1558731 - 10/15/08 12:06 PM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: jerkbait]
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Picture of the fish from KARE 11

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#1558770 - 10/15/08 12:28 PM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: Sandmannd]
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Maybe he's a victim of the economy?:)

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#1558795 - 10/15/08 12:55 PM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: chasineyes]
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So what happens to the fish. Is it given away to the food shelves or Senior Citizens home.

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#1558820 - 10/15/08 01:19 PM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: chasineyes]
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Originally Posted By: chasineyes
Maybe he's a victim of the economy?:)


Actually I think he said it was Bush's fault. I may actually believe him. grin
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#1558845 - 10/15/08 01:56 PM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: nofishfisherman]
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Nope, he said he was saving them for Norm Coleman's Rally and Norm gave him the OK! laugh
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#1558859 - 10/15/08 02:04 PM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: Sandmannd]
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Glad you guys are all done bickering over how many walleye fillets one person should eat for a meal. That was really important stuff right there. grin grin grin

The picture worries me a bit. If they were almost all frozen in packets, they would have to be thawed at least partially to separate them enough to take this picture.

I understand they needed to get a count on how many over his limit he was, but what did the DNR do with all that thawed walleye?
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#1558926 - 10/15/08 03:11 PM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: stfcatfish]
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Daily and possession limits are the same unless otherwise noted. Fishare in an angler’s possession whether on hand, in cold storage, in transport, or elsewhere.


Straight out of the DNR regulations. You can have your daily limit and thats it. If you gift fish they are still part of your possession until they are consumed. Are they going to catch you if you gift some fillets to "Uncle Herb", probably not. I guess it comes down to if you believe in breaking laws or obeying them. I personally take only what I am allowed.

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#1558974 - 10/15/08 03:56 PM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: SkitterPopper]
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A big thank you to someone out there that called the TIP line instead of just complaining about lawbreaking that they saw on an internet forum. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!

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#1559014 - 10/15/08 04:28 PM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: stfcatfish]
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Originally Posted By: stfcatfish
what did the DNR do with all that thawed walleye?


I just hope they aren't for the next North American Wildlife Enforcement Officers Association conference or a perk for Outdoor Heritage Fund participants. smile

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#1559046 - 10/15/08 05:10 PM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: Big Tom]
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That was a low blow, but kinda funny.

Do they have to re-freeze them and save for evidence, or does the piture itself serve as the evidence? If they are thawed, I hope they went to a food shelf or at least a fish fry of sorts. I would hate to see all those nice fillets go to waste.
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#1559049 - 10/15/08 05:13 PM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: Sandmannd]
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My hope is they were refrozen and donated. If they had to hold on to them in case they needed to produce them as physical evidence, it wouldn't have had to be for very long. Those cases tend to move through the system pretty quickly, and the guy pleading guilty would have sped it up more.
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#1559058 - 10/15/08 05:22 PM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: Sandmannd]
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Originally Posted By: Sandmannd
That was a low blow, but kinda funny.


Agreed. That's why I inserted the smiley. For the record, I have a great deal of respect for most of the C.O.'s out there. Most are way underpaid and way overworked. If you look at some of the reports of the stuff they deal with as published in the "Outdoor News", it makes your head spin. Too many NUTZ to deal with and leadership that has been uneven at best.

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#1559083 - 10/15/08 05:54 PM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: nofishfisherman]
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Originally Posted By: nofishfisherman
Without the possession limit we would have every guy in MN with a deep freeze full of fish fillets.

But it wouldn't happen for long, if you know what I mean.

The posession limit certainly helps with enforcement.
I can easily feed my family on 4-16" walleye; even my bottomless pit 8 year old son. That's what fried potatoes and beans are for.

I notice it took a day for this to get posted. Many folks have not been to terribly outraged. Imagine if he was from Chicago on vacation, or worse yet, Hmong! Then the screamers would be out for sure, calling for his head. The guy broke a clear, well documented law in a gross fashion. His fishing license should be toast, fines paid, and rightfully scorned by law abiding sportsmen. We engage our hobbies in the woods and on the water with a great deal of privacy. When honestly and honor are gone, what's left?
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#1559518 - 10/16/08 01:05 AM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: irvingdog]
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There seem to be 2 schools of thought among fishermen and hunters today.

The newer school seems to view fishing as a purely recreational pursuit. This group is gennerally concerned with catching (and usually releasing) more and bigger fish. This group is likely to support some species as totally off limits to consumption and fairly strict restrictions regarding harvest of others. This same group would likely support deer regulations designed to increase antler size. The word "quality" seems to be a buzzword for this group.

Others of us, myself included, enjoy our outdoor pursuits passionately, but take a bit more of a practical approach.
While supporting good stewardship and appropriate fish and game management, harvest and consumption of our natural resources is not something we are ashamed of. Storing fish, that were legally caught for later use does not seem all that outrageous. I'm not talking about a group or individual that violates daily limits or other laws like out of season fishing, spearing or netting. Simply, if a person harvests a fish legally, when he or she consumes it should be their business. I have no idea why the individual in this story piled up that many walleyes, but if he had eaten or gifted them he would have been in compliance with the law even though the same number of fish had been harvested in the same manner. This simply does not make alot of sense to me.

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#1559723 - 10/16/08 09:24 AM Re: Just a couple extra, no big deal.. [Re: PEATMOSS]
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Originally Posted By: PEATMOSS
There seem to be 2 schools of thought among fishermen and hunters today.

The newer school seems to view fishing as a purely recreational pursuit. This group is gennerally concerned with catching (and usually releasing) more and bigger fish. This group is likely to support some species as totally off limits to consumption and fairly strict restrictions regarding harvest of others. This same group would likely support deer regulations designed to increase antler size. The word "quality" seems to be a buzzword for this group.

Others of us, myself included, enjoy our outdoor pursuits passionately, but take a bit more of a practical approach.
While supporting good stewardship and appropriate fish and game management, harvest and consumption of our natural resources is not something we are ashamed of. Storing fish, that were legally caught for later use does not seem all that outrageous. I'm not talking about a group or individual that violates daily limits or other laws like out of season fishing, spearing or netting. Simply, if a person harvests a fish legally, when he or she consumes it should be their business. I have no idea why the individual in this story piled up that many walleyes, but if he had eaten or gifted them he would have been in compliance with the law even though the same number of fish had been harvested in the same manner. This simply does not make alot of sense to me.


Exactly!! someone sees my point. The daily limit is still met either way and the same amount of fish are taken, wether eaten or frozen. If the law said that your posesion limit could be 6 daily limits you would still be required to follow the daily limit. I am not saying he is in the right, but I would like to see the law changed IMO.
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