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#1556609 - 10/13/08 05:52 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: shackbash]
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Originally Posted By: shackbash
but when the winner is declared late at night on election night


Not picking on ya, buddy, but don't you really mean "when the winner is declared six months later after the Supreme Court ruling . . ." grin grin grin

Sorry, man. smile smile
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#1556623 - 10/13/08 06:00 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: BID2]
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Originally Posted By: BID2
Its time to stop bringing the overwhelmingly ignorant along with us.



WELCOME TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!!!!!!! laugh shocked shocked grin cool
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#1556626 - 10/13/08 06:02 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: stfcatfish]
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but when the winner is declared late at night on election night, I will not be going to bed upset.


I agree with you Shack. I haven't and I will never loose sleep over who wins the White House.
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#1556638 - 10/13/08 06:08 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: Sandmannd]
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All I ask is voter registration requiring an ID.

I must agree with Sean Hannity when he says Objective Journalism is dead.

Fox leans Right, the rest are Left, As I see it its about 7:1

And your kidding me if you think I am gonna take LARRY KING as an objective journalist.
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#1556639 - 10/13/08 06:09 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: stfcatfish]
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I tellya! If it is that close again and the Democratic party does not get involved quickly (step up), I will loose all faith in the Democratic party.

I could not stand another 2:00am Rove push of the Republican candidate to the media, declaring them the winner, when things are extremely close.

We all know who ever gets in front of the media first and declares them selves the winner, stays the winner.

Plus, I do not know if this country can handle a scenario you describe STF grin
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#1556658 - 10/13/08 06:22 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: Wade Joseph]
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All I ask is voter registration requiring an ID


When they get to their designated precinct, before they can get a ballot, they have to provide a valid ID.

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And your kidding me if you think I am gonna take LARRY KING as an objective journalist.


For me, maybe not Larry King him self, but his show always has equal side correspondents. 2 left sided people on the left and 2 right sided people on the right of the four squares grin.

He steps in to ask the questions.


He may not be a Tim Russert, but not far behind IMO. the best I have found for now.
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#1556668 - 10/13/08 06:29 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: Wade Joseph]
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Originally Posted By: Wade Joseph
I must agree with Sean Hannity when he says Objective Journalism is dead. Fox leans Right, the rest are Left, As I see it its about 7:1. And your kidding me if you think I am gonna take LARRY KING as an objective journalist.


Wade, these are all TV news sources, right?

There are a lot more news sources out there than TV. They don't call it the b00b tube for nothing, because almost nothing of real value is televised through it when it comes to news. TV was brought into American culture in the 50s with high-blown aspirations and the goal of delivering strong and meaningful cultural elevation to the public.

Oops, how soon they found that most of the public just wanted entertainment. The potential of television, particularly for news and substantive commentary (leaving out public television stations) has never been realized.

There is great journalism being perpetrated on the American public right now. Most of it is posted online. Bias is a very, very difficult thing to eliminate, because all human beings have some level of personal bias, but forget about those shallow TV news scurs and dig in a little, man.

As Fox Mulder always said: "The truth is out there." grin grin grin
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#1556699 - 10/13/08 06:53 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: Sandmannd]
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Originally Posted By: Sandmannd
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but when the winner is declared late at night on election night, I will not be going to bed upset.


I agree with you Shack. I haven't and I will never loose sleep over who wins the White House.


I will. And after 8 long years I could sure use at least a nap. laugh laugh laugh

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#1556778 - 10/13/08 07:46 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: Big Tom]
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Stf...I listen to talk radio. Not much time for TV. Then I try to do a little digging on the internet. I do not care for the Hannity and Colms show. When I do watch anything political on tv other than the debates, I like the sunday morning fox show with chris wallace.

ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN are all left leaning. Fox leans right. Still lopsided amount of info being pumped to the average american. NBC has nearly become the Obama press secretary.
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#1556800 - 10/13/08 08:03 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: Wade Joseph]
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Originally Posted By: Wade Joseph
Stf...I listen to talk radio.


That's even worse than TV. Talk radio isn't even close to news. It's the all-star wrestling smackdown of news. All testosterone, no substance.

Talk radio is all about extremism. As far to the left as left can get, as far to the right as right can get. While that might seem like balance when you play one off against the other, it's like sitting next to a rush-hour freeway and trying to clear your head so you can think. Can't be done.
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#1556811 - 10/13/08 08:16 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: caseymcq]
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This is out there for anyone to see and the agreement that was signed will shock you.

Please take the time to do a little research before you blindly make such base comments.

I did do the research and it't all there. the report even shows obama all dressed up in muslim garb.

I'll bet your smarter than that posted reply.
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#1556815 - 10/13/08 08:19 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: fishgutz77]
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I believe it was African garb.When he visited his grandmother and it was his fathers hometown.
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#1556825 - 10/13/08 08:23 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: Wade Joseph]
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Stf...I listen to talk radio.


You have to be joking. You listen to talk radio? Rush? Hannity? I would have never guessed. smirk

I used to listen to them also-until I understood what they are trying to get across to their listeners-without saying it directly. How? well,for one they use their call screeners to craft which callers go on the air to say what they can't say.

Lately,Hannity's game plan is that they put all the African Americans on the air that don't like Obama-he has always said "we put liberals to the front of the line" wrong-he hasn't had 3 liberal callers on in 3 months. And don't tell me none are calling!
I still listen to Hannity everyday to some extent-just to listen to how vile and devisive he is in his rantings. He,like limbaugh [another corporate gasbag] get their talking points from the RNC,and most all their fans and loyal listeners post what they say on forums like this the following evening.
Today for instance,I can tell that the McCain campaign has told Hannity to tone down the Ayers rhetoric. How do I know? He has been going off on Ayers on continuous loop for 6 months-and today? barely a sound about it. The mcCain camp has toned down the attacks after seeing that it was hurting them.
These two are the exception of course. The real lunatic fringe. We have local Republican talk show hosts that sound like Liberal progressive,weed smokin hippies when compared to Hannity.
It's too bad these extremists have listeners who take their words as true gospel-alot of it ain't!
The way limbaugh spoke today makes me think he knows the inevitable,and he is trying to find the fire escape so if the pubs lose,he can say "see, i told you so,this is what they should have done"
One thing is for certain,Hannity is fighting like a caged animal-with rabies to win at any cost. He has so many talking points he fires off,he reminds me of the pictures you see of the old west Mexican war guerillas with 3-4 bandeleros of cartridges flung over both shoulders! Ole'!

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#1556828 - 10/13/08 08:25 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: sparcebag]
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Originally Posted By: sparcebag
I believe it was African garb.When he visited his grandmother and it was his fathers hometown.



you are correct.
fishgutz is wrong.

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#1556842 - 10/13/08 08:30 PM Re: All Obama, McCain & VP Posts go Here [Re: sparcebag]
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Registered: 01/10/08
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Loc: Monticello, Mn
If it was a visit to gramdma's house why meet with Odinga and sign the agreement?

come on.

The least he could have done is looked up his brother and gave him 20 bucks and doubled his yearly income.

why don't the talking heads on MSNBC, CBS, NBC and so on bring up the link between ACORN, voter fraud and the pressure on banks that lead to the mortgage colapse?
And for all you ACORN folks vote early and often.

Chicago style politics is alive and well.

I'll just keep telling myself that my local elections are more important than who's in the white house.

It's hard for me to see the country I grew up in change so much so fast. teachers taking there first grade class on a field trip today to wittness there gay mariage. what the bleep
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