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#1549928 - 10/07/08 02:39 PM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: airjer]
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See what??????

Sorry dude! I missed that grin

I thought your post ment a nice spread of parts on a bench.

I like the pre-loaded hub Jer brought up grin.

I must have seen Northern Tool in Dtro's post and got all googled eyed grin
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#1549930 - 10/07/08 02:41 PM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: shackbash]
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lol, its kind of nice having one right across the freeway!
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#1549962 - 10/07/08 03:00 PM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: airjer]
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Originally Posted By: airjer
lol, its kind of nice having one right across the freeway!


kind of nice?????

That's like an alcoholic living next to a bar.
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#1550227 - 10/07/08 05:19 PM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: dtro]
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Thats less than a block away!
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#1550329 - 10/07/08 06:30 PM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: airjer]
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Plus you have the liquor store right across the street from you too... Dangerous place to work airjer smile

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#1550571 - 10/07/08 09:55 PM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: jwhjr]
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#1550590 - 10/07/08 10:03 PM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: jwhjr]
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To get back to the original reason for the post - sorry but I get the feeling LeechBait isn't on track yet. You ought to be able to take the pieces that fell off and a decent parts store ought to be able to set you up with what you need.

To the Pro's - if he had this sort of failure isn't he looking at replacing both the bearings and the races at a minimum? Does anyone want to give him the tips on replacing the inner and outer races, as well as the seal?

Leech, it may be a pain but you really don't have a choice. Lesson learned is to do preventative maintenance like check the grease on the trailer at the begining of each season. You've probably shot 3+ hours dealing with this problem so far and it could have been avoided with an hours effort back in April.

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#1550660 - 10/07/08 10:48 PM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: Tom7227]
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To the Pro's - if he had this sort of failure isn't he looking at replacing both the bearings and the races at a minimum? Does anyone want to give him the tips on replacing the inner and outer races, as well as the seal?


If the hub came off the axle than the hub is more than likely shot. Usually the inner bearing is the one that fails. If it did it ground up the hub, particularly the spot the seal will sit in. With the new hub kit/assembly the races are already installed, the bearings are typically packed, the inner bearing is in place and the grease seal is installed. All this for not that much more than a bearing kit.

If he had posted that he went to repack the bearings and noticed they where pitted than I wouldn't have a problem explaining a bearing kit and how to install.
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#1550669 - 10/07/08 10:56 PM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: airjer]
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Also grin

Leech,

I hope you are checking into the other side that did not fail, to make sure it is working fine wink
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#1550882 - 10/08/08 08:49 AM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: shackbash]
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Yeah definitely check the other side, it seems good. I had a bunch of that super silly fireline wrapped around my other one. I believe that's what ultimately caused its demise. I have found out what size the spindle is and found the hub and a kit to repack the bearings and all that good stuff. THE races were still on the axle, (still are too) I have to get at that tonight after work. Hopefully I can get it fixed because the fishing is heating up. Thanks fellas I'll keep you posted and poke a question or two if needed.
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#1550915 - 10/08/08 09:09 AM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: leechbait]
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The races are still on the axle? I think those are parts of the bearings that are stuck on the axle..

I've had this happen once. I neglected my old duck boat trailer bearings one year....water got in, rust, you name it..friction/heat built up and literally welded the bearings to the spindle (axle). All toast. I replaced the spindles, had them welded onto the axle, and purchased a new hub, bearings, etc..
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#1550979 - 10/08/08 09:47 AM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: leechbait]
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Originally Posted By: leechbait
THE races were still on the axle, (still are too)


If the inner races are stuck on the axle that is very bad!!!!

I have had very good luck making a diagonal cut across the race until almost all the way through. Then I use a chisel to split the race the rest of the way. You should be able to get it off with a punch and hammer after it is split. If it doesn't move after it is split you will need to replace the spindle/axle.

The bearing failure probably had more to due with the lack of maintenance than the fireline! If its a boat trailer repack in the fall after the last trip. You get all the moister out before its put away and its ready to go in the spring!
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#1552457 - 10/09/08 12:12 PM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: airjer]
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Don't forget to replace the grease seal. You gently tap it into place after you have the inner race and bearing at the rear of the hub.

You also may want to consider putting on some bearing buddies on both sides. The store you bought the replacement hub at should have them. They help keep things squared away. Be sure to follow the directions that come with them if you chose to put them on.

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#1552516 - 10/09/08 12:46 PM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: Tom7227]
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Bearing buddies are not necessary and are miss used more often than used correctly! Nothing takes the place of yearly, or at least every other year, inspection and or repacking the bearings. Not even a bearing buddie. In fact I see more failures on the trailers with buddies than without because, again, people don't understand there purpose!!
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#1552773 - 10/09/08 03:40 PM Re: Trailer Bearings [Re: airjer]
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Originally Posted By: airjer
I see more failures on the trailers with buddies than without


That's intersting Airjer... from my experience about 85% of the boats (with trailers) that were traded in that didn't have bearing buddies on them needed to be rebuilt - bearings and races.

Maybe 10% at the most of trailers traded in that had bearing buddies needed to be gone through again.

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