Drurys claim fair chase(but with big wallets I'm sure). Those guys are obnoxious. Whats with bouncing an arrow off a deer? Sounds like they need to crank up the poundage a bit. Rage heads work. Fly better than my field points. Before them I used Rockets. They worked too. Shot placement is everything.

The reason I am going with the rage is, I am color blind. I take a little bit longer to trail deer than others, but I have become pretty good at it. When I make a good shot I still have to look harder than most to see the blood. From others I have talked to that have had SOFTBALL size entrance and exit wounds, I am convinced that that hole will make a better blood trail for me.

Off that subject.

I have a story from last year about the Drury boys in ND

A friend of the farmer where we stay and hunt shot this deer last year. The land owners around him had been baiting it(legal in ND) and were going to be paid a good sum by Drury to shoot it, but he shot it on his land before they got a chance at it. They had this deers routine down to a T and it was shot opening weekend of bow hunting. ( This is the story I was told)

Doug,

Getting Close with Lee and Tiffany Lakoskie, and Whitetail freaks with the Kisky's consistantly state that they have never and would never hunt inside of any kind of fence. Infact, they own and manage large sums of land in Iowa spefically for whitetails.


I put Bill Jordan and his realtree tv shows up there with the Drury's; an absolute joke.

I do know that there was a recall on the rage but I think that has been fixed.Rocket hammerheads will do the same as the rage they make a huge hole.There new undertaker came out this year to compete with the rage.I have pack of those and going to give them a chance also.I do not think one broadhead is better then another as long as you make the shot count.Take that back could be some cheaper brands out there.But most heads are good and will do the job.

I agree that it takes a good hit but with that said, the Rage does make a huge hole and also makes it easier to track a deer. I personally have never seen another broadhead make a hole like the Rage does. There could be others out there its just I have not seen them yet.

I used Muzzy's for years and they killed alot of deer for me but, they never left a blood trail like these Rage heads.

I have had good blood trails with all my muzzy shots. Again, shot placement is key. I have nothing against the rages, I just get sick and tired of everyone exclaiming "look at the hole that rage left" after every shot, almost like they're doing a commerical for the company. And some of the people out there on the Internet, prostaff especially, are being paid to hype them in Forum posts and blogs. I'm not saying that's everyone, but that's how they get it started. And good for them, it's good marketing on a quality product. But for me, it just kind of is disappointing to have someone arrow a nice buck, tell a great story, and then do some product placement at the end. Bill Heavy with F&S has joked around about this before in his columns ... "and I could never have taken the buck without my XYZ camo and insert name brand doe pee." lol

As for the TV hunts, Ted does them on Spirit of the Wild, but I watch that for entertainment value, not because I think he's the great hunter of the North or anything. I'd doubt many of these others like the Drury's or Lakosky's hunt high fence, but they do have the advantage of having exclusive access to thousands of acres if not tens of thousands of acres of land with absolutely no pressure. Sometimes they even tell you no one has hunted it for three years. Well, yea, I suppose there are some big bucks running around. You still have to hunt them of course, but if that's your job, then you should be able to tag one with all the scouting and land management you can do.

The combination of so much available land, no hunting pressure and 24/7 to scout and hunt gives them the advantage. But they don't tell you that. They act like everyone can do it, when in fact the rest of us typically have many more contraints. We'll tag out on some big bucks, many serious hunters even one or two a year. But no one can do so as consistently or take a half a dozen a year in various states unless they have the same advantages the TV hunters do or can afford really good outfitters.

Not being a pro staff for Rage, from what I have seen, they do make a huge hole.

As long as you make a good shot anything will work.Trophy Ridge rockets are good and I'm sure there are many out there that are very good.Rage is just the new thing something else will come out and that will be the best.I get great blood trails with Rockets spraying and covering trees solid blood to the deer I do not know what would be better then that for a broadhead.As long as you make the shot count.I have not had a deer go over 60yds as of right now using these for the last 10 years.My elk didn't even get 40yds with the ultimate steel,bear rolled over the bait and expired right there.

Unless your pulling 30 lbs or shooting 30 grains...

it was like a 140 yard shot with a thompson muzzleloader. I saw it last year on Outdoor channel. I didn't think it was possible either but I saw it so i believe it now.

I dont muzzleload yet, but the only thing I can think of is maybe they didnt put the right amount of powder in. But that would probably screw up the accuracy of the gun all together.Im not trying to discount you MNgoosehunter, but it is just so unbelievable...I have to stand on my opinion. no way.

sounds good to me..I saw it so i believe it..I tried looking on youtube for it but they dont have it. Ill try talking to my Uncle and see if he remembers the show or not. It was last year so I dont remember who was shooting, I just remember seeing it.

Hope you find the footage. Not doubting you saw it either. I'd just have to see it to believe it for myself. 140 yards is a good poke, but if a guy is sighted in with normal firearm operation, AND he actually hit the deer at that range, I'd have to say there would be penetration. Otherwise it would have to be rainbow shot to have it bounce off.
While you're talking to your uncle, see if he can get the specifics on "ol' ironsides" his friend bounced an arrow off of...Draw weight, point of arrow impact, shot distance, etc. Hard to dispute without the facts.

yeah no problem ill have to ask him that too..hopefully i can just to prove you guys that it happens but oh well i saw it so i believe it

Swear to it that I had an arrow bounce off a deer. I still have the broadhead to prove it. The tip is bent at a 45 degree angle, so it hit something hard. It was also a mechanical and never deployed. The buck (big buck) was ten yards away and there was no obstruction between him and me. I aim, let it go, and thats all I see is the arrow roll/flip across the bucks back and just land on the ground. The buck ran off. I looked that the arrow, clean as a whistle, not a speck of dirt on it, looks just like I dropped it except for the bent broadhead tip. Any explanations? The only thing that I can think of is it hit its hoof. Had I missed, the broadhead would have deployed and it would have been sticking in the dirt. What I'm getting at is that strange things happen, and after that, I'm not going to call anyone a liar. This is all first hand experience, it happened to me. I even went back and visited the post from 2 years ago. Its still on here, we called him Ninja buck.