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#1516088 - 09/06/08 07:21 PM Re: Palin's speech: Thumbs up or thumbs down? [Re: smartguy]
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Originally Posted By: smartguy
A few points to ponder:

1. Since when does being lauded as a moose hunter give one the credentials needed to be president?

2. Is it me, or do you think some of the "drill Baby Drill" signs hoisted during her speech were NOT referring to ANWR, but something else instead?


1. I dont think that anyone would argue it would. Thats not why she has the credentials. How about being a govener and a mayor? OR, a community organizer?

2. The signs arent just for anwar they are for oil all over like of the gulf coast.

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#1516483 - 09/07/08 09:51 AM Re: Palin's speech: Thumbs up or thumbs down? [Re: Eskimoman]
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Hahahahahahaha! Eskimoman, you must be a Republican to lack any kind of sense of humor on point two. smile

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#1516648 - 09/07/08 01:26 PM Re: Palin's speech: Thumbs up or thumbs down? [Re: Maximum12]
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Is something going way over my head here?

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#1516659 - 09/07/08 01:42 PM Re: Palin's speech: Thumbs up or thumbs down? [Re: Eskimoman]
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Uhhh. Yeah. I got it, but I'm not telling. Chicks shouldn't be playing in to those kinds of references! grin grin

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#1516664 - 09/07/08 01:46 PM Re: Palin's speech: Thumbs up or thumbs down? [Re: fishinchicks]
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I see an innuendo here


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#1516855 - 09/07/08 05:43 PM Re: Palin's speech: Thumbs up or thumbs down? [Re: NAPAFISH]
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OK, it appears Sarah Palin has crammed enough for her first exam and is ready to be tested the first time as VP candidate under real conditions.

Note the final quote from Biden. Interesting how he's handling her with deference, pointing out that she must meet this test only after noting how "formidable" she is.

That continued level of politeness from Biden, of all people, makes me wonder if he's so worried about being called sexist if he rips her a new one that he won't rip her a new one.

This from Politico:



Mike Allen 2 hours, 59 minutes ago

Under pressure for being shielded for questioning, Sarah Palin has a agreed to sit down with Charles Gibson of ABC’s “World News Tonight,” according to an ABC News official.

No other interviews are scheduled. It will be the first TV interview for Palin since she was named 10 days ago as running mate to John McCain.

Palin had planned to return to Alaska this weekend but is so popular on the stump that she is going to stay out a few more days before returning home. One of her sons deploys to Iraq on Thursday.

Palin plans to sit down with Gibson later this week in Alaska, the source said.

The McCain campaign kept her off Sunday shows this weekend and plans to be sparing with high-risk network encounters, which they contend are unimportant to voters despite the media’s fixation on them.

But McCain officials could see her reticence was feeding the narrative of her being unprepared for the job.

Joe Biden of Delaware, her counterpart on the Democratic ticket, challenged her Sunday to submit to network questioning.

“She's a smart, tough politician,” Biden told Tom Brokaw in a “Meet the Press” interview live from Wilmington, Del. “So I think she's going to be formidable. Eventually, she's going to have to sit in front of you like I'm doing and have done. Eventually, she's going to have to answer questions and not be sequestered. Eventually, she's going to have to answer on the record.”


And there's this from the Associated Press:



By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer 30 minutes ago

NEW YORK - Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has agreed to sit down with ABC's Charles Gibson later this week for her first television interview since John McCain chose her as his running mate more than a week ago.
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Palin will sit down for multiple interviews with Gibson in Alaska over two days, most likely Thursday and Friday, said McCain adviser Mark Salter.

The interview with Palin was confirmed Friday, ABC News spokesman Jeffrey Schneider said.

The first-term Alaska governor has given speeches alongside McCain since becoming his surprise pick on Aug. 29. But Democrats have already begun to question why Palin has not been put before reporters to answer questions.

McCain, who appeared on CBS' "Face the Nation" Sunday, said he expected Palin to start doing interviews "in the next few days."

McCain campaign manager Rick Davis complained that the media has focused too much on 44-year-old Palin's personal life. Many of those stories came after McCain's campaign announced that Palin's unwed 17-year-old daughter was pregnant. News reports also have questioned her record as a reformer in Alaska.

"She's not scared to answer questions," Davis said on "Fox News Sunday." "But you know what? We run our campaign, not the news media. And we'll do things on our timetable."

The interview is a coup for Gibson, who also had the only sit-down with McCain during the Republican National Convention. During that interview, he did not question McCain about Palin's family, a decision that he fretted about for hours, Gibson said in a Web log posted last week.

"Once you know about her daughter's pregnancy, once you know about her husband's political interest in the Alaska Independent Party, once you know about the special nature of their latest child, I think that's enough," Gibson wrote.

The relevant questions about Palin all related to her experience and policy positions as a mayor and governor of Alaska.

ABC News spokesman Jeffrey Schneider said he did not believe Gibson's stated stance about family questions was key to securing the interview.

Salter said the offer was made the day after the Republican convention and that there were no ground rules on what could be asked.

He also said Palin had not been sent out to campaign on her own because McCain enjoyed the excitement she was injecting into his campaign.

"They're having a good time. We were riding a lot of momentum coming out of the convention. The crowds were large," said Salter. "The senator himself thought they should continue on for a few days."

Palin won over GOP loyalists with her speech last week at the Republican convention in St. Paul, Minn., which drew more than 40 million television viewers. But Democrats and even some Republicans have questioned whether she is ready to answer unscripted questions about national and international issues.

"Why would we want to throw Sarah Palin into a cycle of piranhas called the news media that have nothing better to ask questions about than her personal life and her children?" Davis said. "So until at which point in time we feel like the news media is going to treat her with some level of respect and deference, I think it would be foolhardy to put her out into that kind of environment."

Palin's Democratic counterpart, Sen. Joe Biden, a veteran of the Sunday talk show circuit, challenged Palin to sit for interviews.

"Eventually she's going to have to sit in front of you like I'm doing and have done," Biden said on "Meet the Press" on NBC. "Eventually she's going to have to answer questions and not be sequestered. Eventually she's going to have to answer questions about her record."

Gibson, in the Web log posted the day after Palin's speech, said he thought it was a very successful night for her.

"The difficult hurdles are to come, I think: The first interviews she'll face on issues; the first time she's closely questioned on positions she's taken in her state; and then, of course, the debate with Joe Biden," he wrote.
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#1516863 - 09/07/08 05:48 PM Re: Palin's speech: Thumbs up or thumbs down? [Re: stfcatfish]
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It is interesting that Biden challenges Palin when McCain has been challenging Obama for a number of months and he is balking at the Town Meeting requests. I would like to see Obama debate Palin.... that woudl be interesting.

Palin did in 20 minutes what Hillary has been trying to do for 20 years and has yet to accomplish.

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#1516865 - 09/07/08 05:50 PM Re: Palin's speech: Thumbs up or thumbs down? [Re: DKL]
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Originally Posted By: DKL

Palin did in 20 minutes what Hillary has been trying to do for 20 years and has yet to accomplish.


Clinton has been trying to get elected president. Millions and millions of voters have to approve her in the primary to allow her on the Dem ticket in the November general election. Palin is only running for vice president, and in order to get on McCain's ticket she only has to satisfy McCain and handful of others.

Pretty big difference.

And at this moment Palin isn't much closer to the presidency than Clinton is. Come November, of course Palin could be sitting in the co-pilot's seat. If that happens, I guess we'll find out whether she has enough skill to fly. I'm betting she does.
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#1516878 - 09/07/08 06:09 PM Re: Palin's speech: Thumbs up or thumbs down? [Re: stfcatfish]
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This is good news. No judgment or fortune telling from me grin I honstly will try
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#1516966 - 09/07/08 07:54 PM Re: Palin's speech: Thumbs up or thumbs down? [Re: stfcatfish]
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Originally Posted By: stfcatfish
Originally Posted By: DKL

Palin did in 20 minutes what Hillary has been trying to do for 20 years and has yet to accomplish.


Clinton has been trying to get elected president. Millions and millions of voters have to approve her in the primary to allow her on the Dem ticket in the November general election. Palin is only running for vice president, and in order to get on McCain's ticket she only has to satisfy McCain and handful of others.

Pretty big difference.

And at this moment Palin isn't much closer to the presidency than Clinton is. Come November, of course Palin could be sitting in the co-pilot's seat. If that happens, I guess we'll find out whether she has enough skill to fly. I'm betting she does.


Saw this earlier this weekend, and your post made me think of it.

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#1516968 - 09/07/08 07:55 PM Re: Palin's speech: Thumbs up or thumbs down? [Re: Chode2235]
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This is turning out interesting, it seems McCain vetted Palin about as well as he vetted the Iraq war....

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#1516978 - 09/07/08 08:08 PM Re: Palin's speech: Thumbs up or thumbs down? [Re: Chode2235]
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It will be interesting to see just how Palin handles the media at this level.

Just a hunch but I bet she came under some pretty close scrutiny in Alaska on her way to the goveners seat.

I think all VP's should be pitt bulls leaving the pres to be above the frey.

I also find the treatment the media and the general population are giving Bieden is much different than Palin. She's facing questions that are gender based.

will it be personalities or issues that win the day in this race?
I hope that the celeb status stops on both sides and we get down to business.

I willing to bet that Palin knows more about fishing than the other ticket combined. but thats only important to me I think.

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#1517110 - 09/07/08 09:53 PM Re: Palin's speech: Thumbs up or thumbs down? [Re: fishgutz77]
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I also find the treatment the media and the general population are giving Bieden is much different than Palin. She's facing questions that are gender based.


Count this among the sentences I never thought I'd see fly off of the keyboard of fishgutz!

Holy [PoorWordUsage] man, gender based?!? You sound like a bleeding liberal now. People are wondering if she's holed up 'cause she's not prepared to answer the media's questions; how's that gender based?

I know exactly what you'd say if I said the media's questioning of Obama were "race-based". smile

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