Minnesota Fishing Wisconsin Hunting
HotSpotOutdoors.com

Fishing Minnesota
Fishing Wisconsin

"We Have More Fun"
Before Posting ANY - web address, commercial contact info, e-mail addresses or commercial pictures please Click Here for more information.
To get authorization to post for items or services wanted, or for sale items please Click Here
.
We insist that posts follow Forum Policy. Be sure to read it before posting. Thanks much.
Please keep your posts fun, friendly, and sharing with good family values.
You've Found the Best Outdoor Members on the Net Right here. Enjoy!


Register HereForum Policy - Please, you must read before using this forum. Thanks!Fishing Minnesota
Who's Online
364 registered (&JAG, 1forwalleye, 2dalake, 311Hemi, 3rdCrowWingLad, 52luge, 23 invisible), 766 Guests and 40 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Outdoor Pro Store


On The Forums ...
Jared Allen?
by koonie
1 minute 29 seconds ago
Gear
by chadwick
3 minutes 4 seconds ago
Cougar sighting
by mrklean
6 minutes 57 seconds ago
The birthday, the Bog, the Birds
by JayinMN
8 minutes 14 seconds ago
Camper Size
by ricbak
9 minutes 59 seconds ago
under water camera
by Tom7227
11 minutes 37 seconds ago
How about these lakes?
by jigginjim
12 minutes 16 seconds ago
Jonny P
by harvey lee
13 minutes 44 seconds ago
MTs thin ice adventure! 11-30
by Desperado
13 minutes 48 seconds ago
Pikes in Buffalo
by jigginjim
14 minutes 11 seconds ago
Newest Members
Adirondacker, Eyez9, bingobob, SDhunter, xcelr8n
40479 Registered Users
Top Posters today
Sandmannd 37
harvey lee 37
dtro 27
mrklean 22
CrappieFshr651 21
shackbash 20
LEP7MM 18
stfcatfish 17
drewski 15
Dbl 15
Forum Stats
40479 Members
185 Forums
183465 Topics
1568645 Posts

Max Online: 3699 @ 05/13/08 12:57 PM
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 >
Topic Options
#1516219 - 09/06/08 09:58 PM George W. Bush
wall_guy_101 Offline
IceLeaders Family

Registered: 10/23/04
Posts: 204
Loc: Foreston
I started to think back on the legacy of Bush today and my conclusion to my thinking is that I do believe George Bush will some day go down as a great, I repeat great, president. Here goes.

Not long after his inaguration, 9/11 happened. It was the worst attack on our own soil since pearl harbor. The event's are still very vivid in my mind as i'm sure it is with everyone and I also vividly remember how united we were as a country and as a people. He, along with congress, made a decision from that point that, that everything would be done in his power to NOT let that happen again. It hasen't. Thank you George Bush.

The economy is, for alot of people, not very good. Reasons? Perhaps to many to blame. The most prevelant in my mind though are the oil prices. But there's one other thing i'd like to state. I recently was reading some of the 9/11 comission report and a line in their stated that "The falling of the towers, a financial mecca for the U.S., will have an economic impact that cannot be put into numbers." And with that statement I whole heartedly agree with. It seems that alot of people have forgotten that it was only 7 years ago. Hardly a time to overcome tens of billions, if not trillions of dollars.

My point, i guess, is that although I do NOT agree with alot of his policies or am trying to be a Bush backer, i'm simply stating that it saddens me when so many are trying to blame their personal ill's on a man who, I strongly believe, has puthis country first no matter howunpopular itiso alot of people. I think , given time, that people will look back on his legacy and truely admire the man for his stance on a lot of thingsthat,as of right now,seems so unpoplar.
_________________________
The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery. (Winston Churchill)

Top
#1516222 - 09/06/08 10:00 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: wall_guy_101]
LMITOUT Offline
HotSpotOutdoors Pro Staff

Registered: 12/02/01
Posts: 5550
Loc: Hutchinson, MN
Gulp....

Top
#1516226 - 09/06/08 10:02 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: wall_guy_101]
stfcatfish Online   content
HotSpotOutdoors Pro Staff

Registered: 12/23/01
Posts: 16192
Loc: Ely, MN
GWB won't go down in history as a great president simply because he comes across as a stupid, smirking, spoiled frat boy.

I'm not using that to malign any successes he may or may not have had (and there will always be debate on what constitutes a success), simply that a great president needs to show that he/she has a mind at work, and Bush Jr. has not done that.

Could he have spent this last eight years hiding a Rhodes Scholar intellect in dunce's clothing? Sure, that's possible. I've been fooled before.

_________________________
"Because you have seen something doesn't mean you can explain it." Barry Lopez, Arctic Dreams
stevefossimages@yahoo.com
Wedding photography, guided photo excursions and fine art prints
Member, Canon Professional Services and Professional Photographers of America
Support our fine Fishing Minnesota Sponsors

Top
#1516229 - 09/06/08 10:05 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: stfcatfish]
wall_guy_101 Offline
IceLeaders Family

Registered: 10/23/04
Posts: 204
Loc: Foreston
I also certainly never said my statements would be popular.
_________________________
The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery. (Winston Churchill)

Top
#1516231 - 09/06/08 10:06 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: wall_guy_101]
Big Tom Offline
Sr FishingMN Family

Registered: 12/03/03
Posts: 645
Loc: Elk River
Originally Posted By: wall_guy_101
George Bush will some day go down as a great, I repeat great, president.

everything would be done in his power to NOT let that happen again. It hasen't. Thank you George Bush.

a man who, I strongly believe, has put his country first no matter how unpopular it is to alot of people.


Anything else from this "great president"?

Top
#1516232 - 09/06/08 10:06 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: wall_guy_101]
BID2 Offline
Sr FishingMN Family

Registered: 12/25/07
Posts: 389
Loc: Marcell, MN
wahka wahka wahka. This forum is like a horrible gruesome uneducated train wreck. I read all the fishing stuff, which is decent. and then I come down here and well................
_________________________
The Dude from the B.I. has returned.

Top
#1516234 - 09/06/08 10:08 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: Big Tom]
Big Tom Offline
Sr FishingMN Family

Registered: 12/03/03
Posts: 645
Loc: Elk River
Trollin, Trollin, Trollin.....Sorry got off at the boat...

Top
#1516235 - 09/06/08 10:08 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: BID2]
wall_guy_101 Offline
IceLeaders Family

Registered: 10/23/04
Posts: 204
Loc: Foreston
I'm a litttle crabby so thought I would stir up some trouble!
_________________________
The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery. (Winston Churchill)

Top
#1516237 - 09/06/08 10:09 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: wall_guy_101]
stfcatfish Online   content
HotSpotOutdoors Pro Staff

Registered: 12/23/01
Posts: 16192
Loc: Ely, MN
Originally Posted By: wall_guy_101
I also certainly never said my statements would be popular.


Heck, posting in here ain't a popularity contest. It's bound to be an interesting thread, and I hope to learn something from it. I don't see it as a troll. Please, someone, show me how I'm wrong in my estimate of GWB. I've been wrong before, and sure am willing to admit it if I've misjudged this guy.
_________________________
"Because you have seen something doesn't mean you can explain it." Barry Lopez, Arctic Dreams
stevefossimages@yahoo.com
Wedding photography, guided photo excursions and fine art prints
Member, Canon Professional Services and Professional Photographers of America
Support our fine Fishing Minnesota Sponsors

Top
#1516240 - 09/06/08 10:11 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: wall_guy_101]
upnorth Offline
HotSpotOutdoors Specialist

Registered: 03/21/02
Posts: 5933
Loc: Chisholm, MN USA
We can all pee and moan about Bush and his way of doing things, but it takes a lot more than just a president to either make things a success or failure. Congress plays a bigger part than the president. The Prez may have the position with the largest portion of power, but can be overruled by the rest of govt. I think we all just would like to either praise or blame a single person instead of the group.
_________________________
The fishing is always good, even when catching is lousy.

Top
#1516243 - 09/06/08 10:13 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: upnorth]
wall_guy_101 Offline
IceLeaders Family

Registered: 10/23/04
Posts: 204
Loc: Foreston
Great point. And maybe another reason I posted what I did.
_________________________
The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery. (Winston Churchill)

Top
#1516251 - 09/06/08 10:18 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: stfcatfish]
Big Tom Offline
Sr FishingMN Family

Registered: 12/03/03
Posts: 645
Loc: Elk River
Originally Posted By: stfcatfish
Originally Posted By: wall_guy_101
I also certainly never said my statements would be popular.


Heck, posting in here ain't a popularity contest. It's bound to be an interesting thread, and I hope to learn something from it. I don't see it as a troll. Please, someone, show me how I'm wrong in my estimate of GWB. I've been wrong before, and sure am willing to admit it if I've misjudged this guy.


You're right Steve. I'd love to be proven wrong as well.

Please post specifics.


Top
#1516256 - 09/06/08 10:24 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: Big Tom]
wall_guy_101 Offline
IceLeaders Family

Registered: 10/23/04
Posts: 204
Loc: Foreston
Here's my most specific point.

From almost the beginning of his presidency a situation occured that has never occured before, by an enemy that is to cowardly to attack us full force. I believe he made it his reslove to do everything within his power to quell this enemy with whatever resources necessary and wherever they may be. And he has done a GREAT job!
_________________________
The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery. (Winston Churchill)

Top
#1516267 - 09/06/08 10:33 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: wall_guy_101]
stfcatfish Online   content
HotSpotOutdoors Pro Staff

Registered: 12/23/01
Posts: 16192
Loc: Ely, MN
I don't necessarily disagree with you here, wall guy, but the point about him being only one person is valid. He has powers, but in a case like this he is a figurehead more than a driver.

It would have been plain to any president that such action was necessary. Even a dunce would get it with his political advisers screaming in his ear the days after 9/11 that the American People Want Action.

He hasn't done a great job necessarily (which also doesn't mean necessarily that he hasn't done a great job). But the thousands and thousands of people who actually have had to perform the nasty tasks of increasing our protections from terrorism have done great jobs.

In our country, the president gets almost the sole credit for things that go right and the blame for things that go wrong. It's not a good way to think in either case, IMO.

_________________________
"Because you have seen something doesn't mean you can explain it." Barry Lopez, Arctic Dreams
stevefossimages@yahoo.com
Wedding photography, guided photo excursions and fine art prints
Member, Canon Professional Services and Professional Photographers of America
Support our fine Fishing Minnesota Sponsors

Top
#1516272 - 09/06/08 10:39 PM Re: George W. Bush [Re: stfcatfish]
wall_guy_101 Offline
IceLeaders Family

Registered: 10/23/04
Posts: 204
Loc: Foreston
And I also agree with you, on certain points, that our service men and women have done an outstanding job. But another point I'd like to make is that many HAVE been screaming in his ear about getting out of war and getting out now, but I commend him on his stance for continuing to support,that which ultimately is in america's best interest. The specific interest being defensive in nature.
_________________________
The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery. (Winston Churchill)

Top
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 >


Moderator:  Dave 
Hot Spot Outdoors


Ice Leaders Sponsors


Support our Sponsors