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#1507616 - 08/29/08 02:37 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: Johnny_Da_Der]
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There is a big difference between your local animal shelter and the hsus. The hsus are just like peta.

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#1507617 - 08/29/08 02:37 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: Johnny_Da_Der]
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Originally Posted By: Johnny_Da_Der
But what is so bad about the the Humane Society?

There is a careful distinction that needs to be made between the Humane Society & the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS). HSUS is an animal rights group along the lines of PETA.
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#1507624 - 08/29/08 02:42 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: cRaPpiEMaN8265]
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Obama can go out there and say whatever he wants to the people at this convention and sure it all sounds great but can he do it?


While this is true, how would we feel if he said nothing? I think it's important for a candidate to tell us what he would like to acheive. Nothing is guaranteed and they don't have the power to force anything they want. The only thing they can do it try their best. Succeed? Maybe. Fail? Maybe. They have to start somewhere and stating a goal is the first step.

The hardest part for me is that they are never able to tell us precisely how they plan to acheive those goals. That would be political suicide and they are practicing smart politics by not doing so.

For example, last night he stated that he would clean up wasted spending. Everybody gave him the thumbs up for that one but unfortunately he doesn't dare tell us what he defines as waisted. I'm guessing that if he did he'd probably lose a lot of supporters and perhaps gain others. The truth is it never works for a politician to be that specific. You just can't appease enough people if you do and your chances of winning the election are basically thrown out the window. If you don't believe me, try running for public office by being descriptive and pointed and see how far you get.

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#1507625 - 08/29/08 02:43 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: TommyJ33]
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Originally Posted By: TommyJ33
Rich people pay the taxes. A vast majority of Americans don't pay taxes. How can there be a tax cut to those who aren't paying taxes?


Tommy, the vast majority of your posts today remind me of a quote from Billy Madison.

"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I
have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response
were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational
thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to
it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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#1507629 - 08/29/08 02:46 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: Big Tom]
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Fabulous! laugh

What a great tag line.
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#1507631 - 08/29/08 02:48 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: hanson]
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Originally Posted By: hanson
Originally Posted By: Johnny_Da_Der
But what is so bad about the the Humane Society?

There is a careful distinction that needs to be made between the Humane Society & the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS). HSUS is an animal rights group along the lines of PETA.


Huh... You learn something everyday. I guess I just figured that the HSUS was the national org that ran the dog shelter down the street.

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#1507633 - 08/29/08 02:51 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: Kidd]
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Fabulous! laugh

What a great tag line.


You and I can fight over it once we figure out which one of us is the biggest pipe smoking anarchist smirk

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#1507635 - 08/29/08 02:56 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: Big Tom]
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Originally Posted By: Big Tom
You and I can fight over it once we figure out which one of us is the biggest pipe smoking anarchist smirk

Well we'd better hurry as I'm leaving for my Friday ritual of rendering brain cells useless. smile
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#1507636 - 08/29/08 02:58 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: Kidd]
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MUST....RESIST.....REPLYING.....TO..THAT....

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#1507638 - 08/29/08 02:59 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: Johnny_Da_Der]
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Originally Posted By: Johnny_Da_Der
Originally Posted By: hanson
Originally Posted By: Johnny_Da_Der
But what is so bad about the the Humane Society?

There is a careful distinction that needs to be made between the Humane Society & the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS). HSUS is an animal rights group along the lines of PETA.


Huh... You learn something everyday. I guess I just figured that the HSUS was the national org that ran the dog shelter down the street.


Thats the catch! Most folks don't know the difference.
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#1507639 - 08/29/08 03:00 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: LMITOUT]
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Don't you love election time.

Dang this whole forum has been transformed from a message board to a chat room smile
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#1507643 - 08/29/08 03:07 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: Kidd]
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Originally Posted By: Kidd
Originally Posted By: Big Tom
You and I can fight over it once we figure out which one of us is the biggest pipe smoking anarchist smirk

Well we'd better hurry as I'm leaving for my Friday ritual of rendering brain cells useless. smile


O.K. you win it's yours. laugh

Heading there myself once I get done working to "pay the man".

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#1507657 - 08/29/08 03:20 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: Johnny_Da_Der]
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Even 57.5 million is not the actual number of people because one tax return often represents several people. When all of the dependents of these income-producing people are counted, roughly 120 million Americans – 40 percent of the U.S. population – are outside of the federal income tax system.

~taxpayerfoundation.org

Couple this with the federal rebates and deductions well over 50% do not contribute to the federal tax base.
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#1507701 - 08/29/08 03:57 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: TommyJ33]
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What monster have I created HeeHeeHee,Dishevel,denial,confusion,illusionists favoring incompetence over reality
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#1507718 - 08/29/08 04:08 PM Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it! [Re: sparcebag]
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Sparce- I had no idea you created the Democratic party?

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