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#1507524 - 08/29/08 01:36 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: TommyJ33]
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Sr IceLeaders Family
Registered: 09/29/07
Posts: 1386
Loc: North of Duluth
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you guys are living in the past...Clinton this/Bush that. it is true that clinton did cut taxes but that was still in his first term after the 94 elections. i said then and say now the 1994 elections was the best thing to happen to clinton. it brought him back to the middle as he governed in Ark
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#1507530 - 08/29/08 01:38 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: LMITOUT]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 12/03/03
Posts: 647
Loc: Elk River
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Like I said, did anyone catch the latest GDP numbers?
Anybody else think the GDP numbers had everything to do with stimulus checks. Let's revisit after 3rd quarter. Did you see the Personal Income numbers? That trickle down on rich folk's tax cuts is really kicking in. 
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#1507535 - 08/29/08 01:41 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: tacklejunkie]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 12/03/03
Posts: 647
Loc: Elk River
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you guys are living in the past...Clinton this/Bush that. it is true that clinton did cut taxes but that was still in his first term after the 94 elections. i said then and say now the 1994 elections was the best thing to happen to clinton. it brought him back to the middle as he governed in Ark It's good to be able to Adapt, Improvise and overcome. It would have been nice to have seen a little more of it the past 8 years.
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#1507537 - 08/29/08 01:43 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: LMITOUT]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 12/03/03
Posts: 647
Loc: Elk River
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Then apparently Bush's stimulus plan worked! As glad as I was to see mine, it is just like a credit card and the bill is coming. 
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#1507538 - 08/29/08 01:43 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: tacklejunkie]
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Sr IceLeaders Family
Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 1318
Loc: Mars
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tacklejunkie, with all due respect: You can't discount Bush's record for this upcoming election because one of the candidates agreed with his decisions 95 out of 100 times. That's the biggest reason I'm voting to remove the republicans because you will have a mirror image of the current administration if we elect McCain.
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#1507543 - 08/29/08 01:46 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: Kidd]
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Sr IceLeaders Family
Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 1583
Loc: St. Paul, MN
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tacklejunkie, with all due respect: You can't discount Bush's record for this upcoming election because one of the candidates agreed with his decisions 95 out of 100 times. That's the biggest reason I'm voting to remove the republicans because you will have a mirror image of the current administration if we elect McCain.
McCain is not his own person huh? Nice - I hate this kind of talk - be rational.
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#1507547 - 08/29/08 01:49 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: tealitup]
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Sr IceLeaders Family
Registered: 12/24/00
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McCain is not his own person huh? Nice - I hate this kind of talk - be rational. So is my 95% number wrong or is there something else I'm missing? I mean, it's not like you've given me some fact laden post here.
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#1507553 - 08/29/08 01:52 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: TommyJ33]
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Registered: 01/27/06
Posts: 239
Loc: Mound
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PETA and HSUS supports the Dem ticket. Enough said.
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#1507559 - 08/29/08 01:55 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: Kidd]
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Sr IceLeaders Family
Registered: 09/29/07
Posts: 1386
Loc: North of Duluth
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tacklejunkie, with all due respect: You can't discount Bush's record for this upcoming election because one of the candidates agreed with his decisions 95 out of 100 times. That's the biggest reason I'm voting to remove the republicans because you will have a mirror image of the current administration if we elect McCain.
i never said dont bring up bush. i dont think obama is the man. a jim webb, heath shuler, others maybe but obama has lots of problems of his own, his ties, his ill. voting record. obama supporters act as if he is squeaky clean and above all scrutiny i dont care how many houses mccain owns or that obamas half brother lives in a hut. there are more important issues and the democrats arent excatly charming the people either. and obama is part of the DC problem, as is McCain obamas supporters believe if they yell bush enough it will carry them to the WH. After watching democrats lose election after election with this type of ticket over the years and make every excuse why they lost, well, all i can say is dont let your happiness be determined by who sits in the WH. the campaign has only just begun. honestly, who has more appeal to middle america, the Mccain/Palin ticket or the obama/biden ticket? be honest
Edited by tacklejunkie (08/29/08 02:07 PM)
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#1507592 - 08/29/08 02:18 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: tacklejunkie]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 12/20/06
Posts: 694
Loc: Shoreview, MN
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These conventions are [PoorWordUsage] anyway. Barack Osama er... i mean, Obama can go out there and say whatever he wants to the people at this convention and sure it all sounds great but can he do it? He says we will have all these new programs to help the people whom are out of work even though many of them aren't even trying to get into work. We should only help the ones that are trying... This is why The Soviet Union failed because people who make lots of money will just stop working so hard if they have to give it all away. Think about it. If you made 200,000 dollars a year and the government takes half of that to give to people who are sitting on their bum whats your incentive to work? I can go on and on about different failed programs he is going to run into in his socialist administration but I would be typing all night. I cant wait for him to face McCain in a debate where he will be shut down. Also remember McCain is just a compromise for Republicans. For most if Ron Paul would even come close to Obama on vote count he would be in office. Good luck with your socialist Democrats
Edited by cRaPpiEMaN8265 (08/29/08 02:19 PM)
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#1507603 - 08/29/08 02:24 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: tacklejunkie]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 12/03/03
Posts: 647
Loc: Elk River
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honestly, who has more appeal to middle america, the Mccain/Palin ticket or the obama/biden ticket? be honest Are we talking about A)rich people who got tax cuts starting in 2003? B)those of us who got stimulus checks in 2008? c)All that watched the debt balloon because of both? So we are now faced with a bunch of loud chatter on how the dems always increase spending or the promise that 4 more years of the same failed policies that ran up the debt won't make it worse. Hmmmmmmmmmm?
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#1507610 - 08/29/08 02:32 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: Big Tom]
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IceLeaders Family
Registered: 01/27/06
Posts: 239
Loc: Mound
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Rich people pay the taxes. A vast majority of Americans don't pay taxes. How can there be a tax cut to those who aren't paying taxes?
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#1507613 - 08/29/08 02:34 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: TommyJ33]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 03/02/07
Posts: 390
Loc: Saint Paul
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PETA and HSUS supports the Dem ticket. Enough said. PETA - I get it, they are crazy whack jobs, agreed. But what is so bad about the the Humane Society?
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#1507615 - 08/29/08 02:36 PM
Re: Dem. Convention Obama Nailed it!
[Re: TommyJ33]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 03/02/07
Posts: 390
Loc: Saint Paul
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A vast majority of Americans don't pay taxes. Documentation please.
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