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#1506207 - 08/28/08 12:01 PM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: Daze Off]
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Originally Posted By: Daze Off
What are the details on the Sept. 2nd one in Ramsey - will try to be at that one and the one on the 18th in Anoka -

SH - Thanks for your efforts to preserve this resource!

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Thanks Daze.

Ramsey is the same format... 5:30 PM at their city hall... Map to Ramsey City Hall
Just presenting the info so people can make a decision with all the available data.


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#1506410 - 08/28/08 01:49 PM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: smallie_hawgin]
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Can't imagine a reason why I would not be at both....see you there hopefully!
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#1506874 - 08/28/08 09:44 PM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: Daze Off]
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How did Monday's meeting in Champlain go? I heard the city had formally moved to NOT support the regulation. So much for giving the DNR a fair shake...host a meeting and pass a resolution that you are against a proposed regulation before the open house is held. Any truth to this?
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#1506936 - 08/28/08 10:56 PM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: da_chise31]
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You got it wrong.
The Champlin city council voted to not interject in the DNR's business. Let them do what they are paid to do.
NICE!
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#1507057 - 08/29/08 07:56 AM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: biglakeba$$]
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The Champlin city council voted to not interject in the DNR's business



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#1507064 - 08/29/08 08:00 AM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: EBass]
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That's good to hear...A rumor without a leg to stand on will get around some other way smile
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#1507254 - 08/29/08 10:22 AM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: da_chise31]
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Now if Anoka would get out of the micro management business of fisheries.
Hopefully Ramsey is bright enough to not try and intervene like Anoka currently is.
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#1507269 - 08/29/08 10:38 AM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: smallie_hawgin]
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SH,

I would also like to say thanks for what you do around here.

Also, I love that River X footage grin and the Franny footage and ER footage.
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#1507351 - 08/29/08 11:50 AM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: shackbash]
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I agree with shackbash, thank you SH for all your hard work.

Just a little information for everyone. At these meetings SH gives all of his information which proves that the upper portion of the river has increased fish size and numbers since the start of the size restrictions. Then the public ask some questions, which is usually a few of the people that want the anoka tourny to continue, they say the dont believe the science and that the DNR is trying to pull something over on them. Please show up to these meetings and voice you opinions. These changes are going to do nothing but good for the rivers fishery. I have been to the Anoka meeting and I will be at the Ramsey meeting next week

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#1507471 - 08/29/08 01:09 PM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: riverwader]
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Thanks guys.....

I really try to do my best for the resource. Just showing the fisheries information and doing the best I can, with what information we have, to best manage a truly unique and sensitive resource....

For the record I do enjoy fishing tourneys as well.... So I am not against them in general or against this particular one at all...

But; the value and preservation of the resource is more important than any one event for sure.

Funny thing with this deal, is that the reg if it does go in place does not prevent the tournament at all. Make it challenging maybe... I offer that this could be one of the first truly jetboat oriented tourneys on the river.... Think about it... if the tournament operates under the regulation, technically they could even go all the way up to St. Cloud Dam!!!! 60 miles of river available!!!

Besides.... I do this because I kinda like smallies... laugh
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#1507581 - 08/29/08 02:10 PM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: smallie_hawgin]
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Thanks SH - There are plently of 11 3/4" smallies in the Anoka stretch for their tourney:)
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#1511982 - 09/03/08 10:32 AM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: EBass]
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I just heard of this proposal last night. I do like the idea of CPR for bass. But I totally am against the notion of the DNR's proposal. This does eliminate tournaments! As there are tournaments where only one person is in the boat thus this puts the one angler boats in a compromised position. Also there are tournaments where there is a minimum of 12" lengths for each bass in order to weigh in. So this regulation would only allow 1-person boats to bring in only one fish over 20". Not cool. I have seen many a tournament on the Miss won with a bag of 17" - 19" bass. Now I could see the potential of the restriction if the DNR would require tournaments to register for that one day and allow the fish (all fish over 12") to be caught and released unharmed back to the waters. B.A.S.S. has also done many studies documenting that over 95% of bass survive (even in hot climate waters in the Southern states) and return back to their origal place they were caught.

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#1512144 - 09/03/08 12:40 PM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: Craig Sanders]
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Not sure if I agree there Craig. First of all the regulation would make it challenging in this particular area I will agree with that. However, it does not prevent or eliminate any tournament what so ever. The tournament in question is a team tournament that would allow 6 fish in the boat. For others, yes it would require a 3 fish bag, but, all those who fish the same tournament would obviously have to abide by the same regulations. So I guess I don't quite see how this prevents tourneys from taking place....

Now it may not have the pride of the bag of 17-19 inch fish, but, it would still be a tournament I would be willing to participate in.... whistle

But in all honesty, this is not about the tournament at all. This is making a choice about preserving and enhancing a fishery that will be under more and more pressure as human populations increase in the area.... Projections show the Ramsey, Anoka, Champlin area growing up to 14% by 2020. Will you or anyone else guarantee that all these new folks will have the same C&R ethic that many of us have on this site?? This I highly doubt..... Just a little thought to think outside the little box we often put ourselves in.... grin


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#1512846 - 09/03/08 10:35 PM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: smallie_hawgin]
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Tournaments shmernaments...take the tournament fishing elsewhere if the special regs no longer make it feasible. Preserving QUALITY fishing for future generations is far more important.
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#1513292 - 09/04/08 09:46 AM Re: Smallie Regulation St. Cloud to Coon Rapids - your input [Re: Sartell Angler]
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If the DNR wants to protect the smallies make it a state wide 3 fish limit. Why just pick on 10 mile stretch. If they really want to make a difference make the whole Mississippi river C/R not just certain parts. More smallies get keeped down river then up river. I just think that they really should do that instead.

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