I agree Liriano has had an awsome stretch and belongs back in the bigs. I also think ALL our starters have earned their spot in the rotation. Short of an injury, or trading one of our top 5 I don't know what the answer is. Guess we'll have to trust the front office to do the right thing.

Livan has given up a lot of hits, but when you throw more innings than anyone else that is to be expected. Look at his win-loss record and I say leave him alone.

Tough choices. Glad I'm not the one who has to make them.

I think they need to decide between slowey or blackburn which one has a better make-up for the pen. Our pen is a mess right now.

we may just have to give up one of our young starters in a trade to try and bring in some power. might have to throw in a prospect or two as well. no one wants the [PoorWordUsage] that we already know needs to go. everyday it is looking more and more like liriano should be up in the big leagues. if gardy read these forums the twins would have the best record in the majors. yes, that was sarcasm.

Our pen is a mess right now because we are playing the yankees or overall?

You have to remember gardy is something like 3-17 at Yankee Stadium. The twins worst stadium to play in by far.

Lets get a win today and salvage that and get out of town.

Hopefully we can take it to cleveland and white sox and get back to the brand of baseball we were playing most of june and july.

Liriano will come up as needed and as a starter. Its going to take more than 1 bad outing for the Twins to drop one of their current starters.

Livan is 14th in innings pitched in the AL. He has given up the most hits 178 vs. 142 for Buehrle in second. He has the worst ERA of this group. He also has the fewest strikeouts.

On the plus side, he is tied for fewest walks and is tied for ninth in wins overall.

Bass,Crain,Boof, I'd say our pen is a mess.

We need a set up man bad. Blackburn gets my vote.

sled, good idea. i was thinking about having him included in a trade for a bigger bat since all we can offer right now is junk, but i like your idea better. somehow we need to make room for the big L-Dog.

Here may be the problem with trading away Slowey or Blackburn or Perkins.

1. we still have Livan

2. If one guy (like Baker) gets injured, we ARE SCREWED.

Ruesse this morning was talking about waivers on Boof after the 1st of Aug because the waivers are different after that.
The recall Liriano and put Blackburn in the pen.

Yeah I can't see Livan being a strong option in the pen. His first two innings lately are brutal. C'mon Billy eject the tick and get Liriano up here already.

I've been a supporter of Livan...till last night. A crucial game in the biggest series of the year to-date and Livan let us down. BIG TIME. I't time to cut him and get Liriano back to the bigs.

Yeah, I know, veteran presence in the rotation, bla, bla, bla. It's over, let's move on, and up.

And then there's Boof. How long can we let him keep giving up the big innings?

Several GM's and scouts have told the reporters, that Boof will not clear waivers this year. Too many teams need pitching.