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#1465447 - 07/18/08 04:03 PM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: tisosy11]
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livan is chubby!

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#1465722 - 07/18/08 10:01 PM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: SledNeck]
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Reusee on the radio this eavning made the statement that liriano and Livan have the same agent. Livan has a garanteed contract, Meaning if he can get Livan cut and Liriano called up HE the agent gets more $$$$.

I say leave him untill they NEED him. He will be here sept. 1st for sure. We all now how the twins deal with whinners....
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#1465939 - 07/19/08 11:57 AM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: Cicada]
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I say start him back in the bullpen and see how he does. He has been doing very well in the minors but thats the minors not the big league
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#1465971 - 07/19/08 12:41 PM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: AceintheHole]
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Kind of a waste of effort, don't you think? Spend all that time in the minors to build up the arm, then put him in the bullpen. Doesn't make any sense at all.

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#1466288 - 07/20/08 07:48 AM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: Cicada]
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who would you start in the playoffs?

Liriano or Livan?


and there u go

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#1466328 - 07/20/08 08:50 AM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: SledNeck]
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Livan earned his keep yesterday....
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#1466367 - 07/20/08 10:13 AM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: Neighbor_guy]
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Livan's stats over all arent all that impressive, but the most important stat, the Twins find away to win behind him, and that is what really counts! I dont care if his era is 20, as long as he is winning!

Liriano needs to chill out, he is going to get his chance, but the Twins should not mess with what they have now, if it works dont fix it!
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#1466409 - 07/20/08 11:48 AM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: DonBo]
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#1466414 - 07/20/08 11:56 AM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: Ude Lake Tom]
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Caught an interesting tidbit yesterday...Liriano's agent is also the agent for Livan Hernandez. Soooo...what happens there if/when Livan is the guy who gets moved to the pen or released to make room for Liriano?
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#1466421 - 07/20/08 12:04 PM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: SledNeck]
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Originally Posted By: SledNeck
who would you start in the playoffs?

Liriano or Livan?


and there u go
Got to get to the playoffs before you can play in them. Old guy has 10 wins and eats lots of innings..
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#1466830 - 07/20/08 11:06 PM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: Bobby Bass]
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6 man rotation?

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#1466892 - 07/21/08 02:06 AM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: SledNeck]
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Doubtful!
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#1468868 - 07/22/08 07:43 PM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: PierBridge]
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no 6 man - thats junk...

Livan gets the start in the playoffs. The veteran must get the start.
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#1468977 - 07/22/08 09:25 PM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: tisosy11]
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I thought the best pitchers started in the playoffs?

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#1469415 - 07/23/08 10:22 AM Re: Liriano - Who falls out of the Rotation [Re: SledNeck]
Big Tom Offline
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Enough Already.

The Franchise went 7 strong innings against the Mud Hens last night, two hits. He has given up 1 earned run in the last 35 innings. I know we're talkin' about minor league ball here but this guy went 10-2 against major leagers two years ago.

He needs to start the opening game of the White Sox series at the dome on six days rest. Can you say sellout?

I couldn't care less who goes to the bullpen or if Billy Smith gets off his arse and brings in some right handed power or additional bullpen help or just plain offs Bass, Bonser or Lamb.

Livan does have value. I would just rather see it in the bull pen or somewhere else. Starting a guy in games 1,4 and 7 in the playoffs that has given up the most hits in the AL and an ERA over 5 just doesn't do a whole lot for me.

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