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#1455080 - 07/08/08 10:30 AM Re: Speculation and the high price of Oil. [Re: fishorgolf]
4wanderingeyes Offline
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I think the US should tell Isreal now that we are not going to back them up, that they are on their own!
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#1455181 - 07/08/08 11:46 AM Re: Speculation and the high price of Oil. [Re: 4wanderingeyes]
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Problem is I think This administration is quietly behind Israel Just like they were behind Israel when Israel attacked attacked Hamaas in Lebanon. The cannidates probly shouldnt voice their opinion just incase this threat actually works agaist Iran. Keep em guesing be benificial if Iran didnt know what the futer holds.Of course the other route may work to.
Just glad I dont have to make the decision. I'll stick to arm chair quaterbacking. When something goes wrong I'll have hind sight on my side wink grin
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#1455202 - 07/08/08 12:01 PM Re: Speculation and the high price of Oil. [Re: croixflats]
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4wanderingeyes, so your opinion is we should just let them get blown off the face of the earth?

20/20 hindsight is great ha croixflats smile
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#1455255 - 07/08/08 12:37 PM Re: Speculation and the high price of Oil. [Re: fishorgolf]
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I think we should worry about our own country and stop worring about others! If they want to blow each other up, let them! If Isreal is feeling tough and think they can fight Iran let them, if they are only going to do it because they think we are going to back them, well its not our war, why do we need to get into the middle of it. Our economy cant handle another expensive war.
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#1455667 - 07/08/08 05:58 PM Re: Speculation and the high price of Oil. [Re: fishorgolf]
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Originally Posted By: fishorgolf
KId, so what do you think think the US should do if Israel (spelled correctly) bombs Iran?

Well first off, the new President should tell Israel (happy? wink ) that we will not support any invasion into Iran, and secondly, if they do go in, leave it up to the UN to decide. We cannot afford another 2b a month when our own economy is crumbling.

Pretty simple.
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#1455670 - 07/08/08 06:01 PM Re: Speculation and the high price of Oil. [Re: fishorgolf]
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Originally Posted By: fishorgolf
4wanderingeyes, so your opinion is we should just let them get blown off the face of the earth?


Ther are more options than that.
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#1456221 - 07/09/08 08:01 AM Re: Speculation and the high price of Oil. [Re: Kidd]
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Israel is that mean little dog that we keep on a short leash and I don't mean that as an insult. They kicked the stuff out of the Arabs plenty of times and in short order. The world situation is quite a bit different now and nobody is willing to risk WW3. The U.S. in Iraq isn't helping Mideast relations but a Jewish/Muslim conflict would be a whole new ballgame.


Edited by Black_Bay (07/09/08 08:01 AM)
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#1456258 - 07/09/08 08:37 AM Re: Speculation and the high price of Oil. [Re: Black_Bay]
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no US president is not going to support israel. i dont care if its obama or Mccain. we may say,"bad israel" in public if they attack iran but then give then a wink an a nod behind the scenes

and if israel does attack iran, the oil speculators will have a field day


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#1456261 - 07/09/08 08:39 AM Re: Speculation and the high price of Oil. [Re: Black_Bay]
Kidd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Black_Bay
a Jewish/Muslim conflict would be a whole new ballgame.

And just think what the reaction in that region would be if it were a Jewish/Christian vs. Muslim conflict.
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#1456287 - 07/09/08 09:13 AM Re: Pelosi Wants to release some of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve [Re: Kidd]
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Yet another ineffective solution to the Oil Price drama. Anyone depending upon current government leadership to fix any of our ails has misplaced their confidence.

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#1456311 - 07/09/08 09:38 AM Re: Pelosi Wants to release some of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve [Re: Big Tom]
fishorgolf Offline
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Kid, Saying that to Israel would make it a field day for attacks ( in secret or not it would get out) and deep down you know it, so why not just come out and give us your real feelings about Israel? I think we would all like to hear.

The UN decide! Is that the org. with that wonderful track record of avoiding and solving conflicts around the world?
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#1456464 - 07/09/08 12:09 PM Re: Pelosi Wants to release some of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve [Re: fishorgolf]
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agreed. The UN is a joke.

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#1456536 - 07/09/08 01:02 PM Re: Pelosi Wants to release some of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve [Re: fishorgolf]
Kidd Offline
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fishorgolf, here’s a thought; why don’t you try constructing a value added post as oppose to simply making assumptions and then telling everyone else to post what there’re thinking? All your post are the same; you doubt what others are saying yet you offer no reasoning or facts to back anything up. I have neither the time, nor the desire to play this game of “I know you are, but what am I”. If you want to understand why I, or others, are saying what they are saying, formulate an argument and let us respond to some valid issues.

Give me something, anything, to support your statement that “Saying that to Israel would make it a field day for attacks”. Then we can have some reasoned debate.
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#1456556 - 07/09/08 01:22 PM Re: Pelosi Wants to release some of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve [Re: Kidd]
fishorgolf Offline
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I can not say for a FACT that this will happen. That can only be stated after something has happened you know that.

OK.
- Iran has publicly stated they believe Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth. As have other countries made similar statements.
-Israel is the constant target of missile, and suicide bomber attacks.


This is with the knowledge that the US is behind them as you state. To thing this would not only get worse is naive.
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#1456557 - 07/09/08 01:25 PM Re: Pelosi Wants to release some of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve [Re: fishorgolf]
fishorgolf Offline
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Recent UN failures (recent as history goes)

Darfur
Rwanda
Bosnia

These are off the top of my head.
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