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#1452251 - 07/03/08 11:40 PM Why is it so hard to turn your lights on?
ddsbyday Offline
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Registered: 09/19/05
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Loc: Coon Rapids Mn.
I just got off the lake. It is Thurs. before the 4th. Went out at dusk. Legally I needed to turn my lights on when I left the dock. I just pushed a button. It was easy,legal and safe. The lake I was on is narrow. I fished for an hour and a half. I had a fish break my old line. Not enough light to tie on a new rig. I dodged boats all the way back. Most had no lights until I got close. Some would just flip on their white light. Whats up with that? Turn your lights on. If the bugs are bad get off the lake. I don't want your family suing me because you go to flip on your navigation lights on at the last minute and they don't work. Why is this so hard?

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#1452253 - 07/03/08 11:44 PM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: ddsbyday]
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#1452278 - 07/04/08 03:20 AM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: shortfatguy]
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#1452280 - 07/04/08 04:07 AM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: PierBridge]
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Isn't this what they call Natural Selection? People are morans and there's a ton of them. I like to be seen when I'm on the water, others think no one knowing where they fish is more important.
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#1452310 - 07/04/08 07:12 AM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: Sandmannd]
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Probably to keep the bugs away. Still illegal tho and foolish.
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#1452485 - 07/04/08 01:01 PM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: upnorth]
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I drives me nuts and I scan for unlit boats driving the boat in the dark. Sure wish I could hand out those $300 tickets.
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#1452785 - 07/05/08 10:33 AM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: Borch]
2thepointsetters Offline
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Last night around 11:00 p.m on Lake Superior I was about 3 feet away from going through a sailboat broadside. He was out with no lights or horn. The best part was his wife started yelling at me for almost going through them. I was going slow and able to slam the boat in reverse otherwise it would have been a bad deal for them. I did have a talk with him informing him about lights and his lack of common sense.
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#1452796 - 07/05/08 10:41 AM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: 2thepointsetters]
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Some people have no concept why some rules are made and then get POed when something happens that would have been prevented by following the rules.
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#1452902 - 07/05/08 01:36 PM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: upnorth]
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Same guys that drive past dark, or early morning with no headlights.
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#1452936 - 07/05/08 04:19 PM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: Wish-I-Were-Fishn]
BobT Offline
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Registered: 03/20/06
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I hear you about the lights but then you tell us what time it was so we have no idea about how dark it was or even if it was dark. Only that it was dusk. At what point does it become unlawful to not have one's lights on, sunset, dusk (whenever that is), or dark (to what degree)?

How often it is that it's raining, snowing, or foggy and people don't turn on their vehicle lights according to MN law.

Regarding the white anchor light. MN law only requires navigation lights when one is under way. While at anchor or not moving only the white light (anchor light) is required.

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#1453058 - 07/06/08 12:39 AM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: BobT]
BoxMN Offline
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Actually, I think, if you are not moored or anchored, you need NAV lights. Even if "not moving" if you drifting at no speed, you need full NAV lights.
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#1453119 - 07/06/08 08:45 AM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: BoxMN]
BobT Offline
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Loc: Osakis, MN
Here's the rule from the 2008 boating guide.

Navigation lights must be on from sunset to
sunrise (see sunrise/sunset schedule at end of booklet).

When underway, motorboats less than 40 feet
long display:
(1) A 225 degree combination red and green bow
(front) light.
(2) A 360 degree white stern (rear) light. When at
anchor, only the degree; white light is
necessary.

As you can see the lights are required from sunset until sunrise, which means they must be illuminated before it actually gets dark.

As BoxMN has pointed out, while at anchor only the white light is needed otherwise all lights must be illuminated. In other words, if your anchor is not holding you in position, you must illuminate all of your navigation lights.

Bob


Edited by BobT (07/06/08 08:47 AM)
Edit Reason: Had to fix translation issue
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#1453122 - 07/06/08 08:50 AM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: BobT]
BobT Offline
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Registered: 03/20/06
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Loc: Osakis, MN
I must admit. I am guilty of incorrectly displaying my lights. I certainly have been using them after dark but I now realize that I should have been turning them on a bit sooner.

Also, I am guilty of not using navigation lights while adrift.

I am now educated. I thought I understood the code but I obviously didn't.

Thank you,

Bob
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#1453259 - 07/06/08 02:03 PM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: BobT]
grasshopper Offline
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Registered: 08/26/07
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Loc: Minnesota
I don't know. I turn on my light when sun starts to set. Commen sence. I want to be around tomorrow and the day after.

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#1453323 - 07/06/08 04:50 PM Re: Why is it so hard to turn your lights on? [Re: grasshopper]
Sandmannd Offline
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Originally Posted By: grasshopper
I don't know. I turn on my light when sun starts to set. Commen sence. I want to be around tomorrow and the day after.


Agreed, I just pop mine on when you can tell it's starting to get dark. I can't see a down side to having your nav lights on.
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