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#1406143 - 05/19/08 09:04 AM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: Bjjams]
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Originally Posted By: Bjjams

LEP7MM- one might be prone to say something that you personally frown upon, but at the same time none of that is illegal. I don't ride without a helmet but the state says it's okay. High hp is legal, loud pipes for the most part are legal. You can't get on somebody's case when the state says it's fine.

Roofer and Somethingfishy could you send me those pics and videos?


I agree. I just look at the bigger picture. But in the case of not paying attention to those around you, or greedy riding as you put it, or riding in a careless/reckless manner, that is against the law.

I wasn't there Saturday and wish I was. I'm going through withdrawls. Maybe once June comes around, we can 2nd mortgage our houses and get another ride set up.

I'm not here to preach to the choir, just voicing my opinion and pointing out a couple things to consider for the next time.

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#1406290 - 05/19/08 10:41 AM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: LEP7MM]
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Originally Posted By: LEP7MM
Originally Posted By: Bjjams

LEP7MM- one might be prone to say something that you personally frown upon, but at the same time none of that is illegal. I don't ride without a helmet but the state says it's okay. High hp is legal, loud pipes for the most part are legal. You can't get on somebody's case when the state says it's fine.

Roofer and Somethingfishy could you send me those pics and videos?




I agree. I just look at the bigger picture. But in the case of not paying attention to those around you, or greedy riding as you put it, or riding in a careless/reckless manner, that is against the law.

I wasn't there Saturday and wish I was. I'm going through withdrawls. Maybe once June comes around, we can 2nd mortgage our houses and get another ride set up.

I'm not here to preach to the choir, just voicing my opinion and pointing out a couple things to consider for the next time.


Fast riding is not neccasarily reckless nor Illegal, as stated helmets are not required. Watching for those behind you is not a requirement or a matter of legality, in this instance I would call it poor manners and lack of courtesy, thus why my GF was at the end of the pack with the helmet comm trying to keep the group together.

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#1406299 - 05/19/08 10:49 AM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: Bjjams]
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Originally Posted By: Bjjams


Roofer and Somethingfishy could you send me those pics and videos?


I didn't take any pictures other than my cousin getting pulled out of the mud by the suburban.

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#1406328 - 05/19/08 11:25 AM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: SomethingFishy]
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Originally Posted By: SomethingFishy

Fast riding is not neccasarily reckless nor Illegal, as stated helmets are not required. Watching for those behind you is not a requirement or a matter of legality, in this instance I would call it poor manners and lack of courtesy, thus why my GF was at the end of the pack with the helmet comm trying to keep the group together.


I must say that those chatterboxes are really nice when you are riding in a larger group. One in front and one in back and no one gets left behind.

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#1406331 - 05/19/08 11:28 AM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: SomethingFishy]
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Originally Posted By: SomethingFishy
Originally Posted By: Bjjams


Roofer and Somethingfishy could you send me those pics and videos?


I didn't take any pictures other than my cousin getting pulled out of the mud by the suburban.


That's cool, for some reason I thought you took some more when we stopped.

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#1406385 - 05/19/08 12:04 PM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: SomethingFishy]
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Originally Posted By: SomethingFishy


Fast riding is not neccasarily reckless nor Illegal, as stated helmets are not required. Watching for those behind you is not a requirement or a matter of legality, in this instance I would call it poor manners and lack of courtesy, thus why my GF was at the end of the pack with the helmet comm trying to keep the group together.


I'm not trying to start anything here and maybe I read more into the posts that what was meant.

I also don't mean to argue, but depending on how fast they were going, many trails have posted speed limits and faster operation, depending on the conditions and visibility, could be considered reckless operation.

In posting this information, I'm only trying to point out what a CO will tell you. Some CO's may view fast riding without a helmet as being reckless. A lot also has to do with the interpretation of the patrolling officer.

The bottom line is you guys had fun and no one got hurt.

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#1406408 - 05/19/08 12:15 PM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: LEP7MM]
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The only speeding that I am aware of was going down 371 in my truck, the state trooper was kind enough to point that out to me when he gave me my $127 ticket for passing a slow and inconsistent driver.

I will be careful to watch what I post here as it seems others are always quick to pick apart or misinterpet things that are posted. Too many things are taken out of context. One man's six is another mans half dozen.

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#1406578 - 05/19/08 02:02 PM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: SomethingFishy]
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SF,

you didn't post anything wrong. It was more than likely a case of I read more into the posts than what was actually being said. For that I apologize.

Bummer on the speeding ticket. I know exactly what you mean about the slow and inconsistent drivers. See them everyday on ym commute.

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#1406761 - 05/19/08 04:23 PM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: LEP7MM]
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The helmet comm. seemed to work very well. I give a thumbs up to your GF fishy!

Nobody is raggin' on anyone. It's hard to know what people are really saying and their tone on the net. I wouldn't worry about it. My buddy's used to be WAY more trouble than that. That's nothing. If anything, I was just pickin' on ya. smile

The competition between friends and family can get things stirred up, but it wasn't anything 'off the deep end' illegal.

Of the people I have met and rode with on this site.....I feel proud to ride with you. Everyone has been very courteous and fun to be with.

Also, after spending time with alot of you.....I'm confident we are all on the same level and same page when it comes to riding atv's. Besides our jabbing about our specific brand of atv's, I doubt there would be much, if any discrepancy's on most subjects. It's rare to find people that can get along like that. smile
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#1406765 - 05/19/08 04:27 PM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: Roofer]
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I have to say Spider Lake looks like an awesome place to camp! Lots of trails, nice camp sites (that I saw). I wonder how bad the bugs are and how crowded it gets in the summer????
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#1406797 - 05/19/08 04:41 PM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: Roofer]
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Originally Posted By: Roofer
I have to say Spider Lake looks like an awesome place to camp! Lots of trails, nice camp sites (that I saw). I wonder how bad the bugs are and how crowded it gets in the summer????

I don't think the crowds get much worse but the bugs on the other hand. I remember going up there with my dad and the horseflies just about carried us away.

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#1406854 - 05/19/08 05:16 PM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: Bjjams]
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Gotcha.

BTW, I'm glad I didn't have to use my winch up there. I pulled the cable out to clean it up yesterday. I went to reel it back in and no power!! Did some looking around and the cheap cheater clip I used for the power wire fell apart. Now I have it soldered and taped up nicely. smile

Also, did anyone else have rocks the size of small potatoes in their frame or skids? I had a few in my CV guards that I couldn't believe made the whole ride home! Must have been that water hole I hit along the trail that was filled with rocks. One rock was big enough, that it bounced me almost out of the water to go over it! haha
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#1407000 - 05/19/08 07:26 PM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: Roofer]
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I would like to check spider lake out for a night ride, camping would be great.You would want to get there early as alot of sites fill up fast. Akeley would also be a good place to ride but camping options are lesser.

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#1407077 - 05/19/08 08:32 PM Re: Spider Lake ride 05/17/2008 Who's going ? Post if you plan to atte [Re: SomethingFishy]
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Oh ya! Night rides are the best! Only thing better is a 40 degree night ride with snow on the ground.
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