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#1400273 - 05/13/08 07:37 PM
Re: Now what???
[Re: Roofer]
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HotSpotOutdoors Specialist
Registered: 03/21/02
Posts: 5468
Loc: Chisholm, MN USA
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Uuuhhh....I am up here in Canada for some training and had a discussion today on break with one of the instructors about "Free" Healthcare. She related how her Dad needed a CT Scan and was put on a waiting list, the problem was the waiting list was 3 freakin months long. Her Dad had some sort a Liver problem and needed it now. She wound up having to take him to private clinic and paying $1600 for the CT Scan out of her own pocket(and yes he needed it then, wound having to have urgent surgery) how free was that. They don't prioritize you just got put on a list.
She also said many people head to the states to have procedures done since the care is either poor quality or you have to wait too long to get it. We may spend a few $$ for our healthcare, but it is there WHEN we NEED it and it is quality care. You do get what you pay for it seems.
Those of you hoping for National Healthcare...careful what your are wishing for. If we go to a system like that, we won't even have anyone to go to if we need quick or immediate help. Free ain't always good.
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#1400289 - 05/13/08 07:53 PM
Re: Now what???
[Re: Roofer]
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Sr IceLeaders Family
Registered: 11/09/05
Posts: 1546
Loc: South Range, WI
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For all you "Bush Bashers" I'd like to give you some statistics to ponder.
In just one year. Remember the election in 2006?
Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value
evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
Remember its Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.
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"When asked what a man has done in his life, I can say I WAS IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY" John F Kennedy
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#1400602 - 05/13/08 10:45 PM
Re: Now what???
[Re: upnorth]
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Sr HotSpotOutdoors Family
Registered: 01/16/06
Posts: 5745
Loc: St. Paul, MN
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Uuuhhh....I am up here in Canada for some training and had a discussion today on break with one of the instructors about "Free" Healthcare. She related how her Dad needed a CT Scan and was put on a waiting list, the problem was the waiting list was 3 freakin months long. Her Dad had some sort a Liver problem and needed it now. She wound up having to take him to private clinic and paying $1600 for the CT Scan out of her own pocket(and yes he needed it then, wound having to have urgent surgery) how free was that. They don't prioritize you just got put on a list.
She also said many people head to the states to have procedures done since the care is either poor quality or you have to wait too long to get it. We may spend a few $$ for our healthcare, but it is there WHEN we NEED it and it is quality care. You do get what you pay for it seems.
Those of you hoping for National Healthcare...careful what your are wishing for. If we go to a system like that, we won't even have anyone to go to if we need quick or immediate help. Free ain't always good. Canada's health care stinks. Go down to Mayo sometime and see how many are down there or at the U. They can't get healthcare in time to take care of themselves. They have to come down here and pay through the teeth for it. As in the hit song from Team America, World Police: Freedom isn't free. As usuall Wade, I agree on your posts. You make very good points.
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#1400684 - 05/14/08 01:11 AM
Re: Now what???
[Re: Sandmannd]
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HotSpotOutdoors Family
Registered: 02/19/08
Posts: 88
Loc: Northern, Wisconsin
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The most frightening concept is, "Free Healthcare."
As with many things, our healthcare system has it's share of problems.
Nobody doubts that.
"Free" healthcare is a wonderful sounding concept.
That is, until you yourself or a loved one needs quality, timely care.
Those who push for "free" health care I am sure mean well and have good intentions.
However, some of the most unintentional outcomes have resulted from good intentions
Edited by imhooked (05/14/08 01:21 AM)
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#1400869 - 05/14/08 08:32 AM
Re: Now what???
[Re: imhooked]
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HotSpotOutdoors Family
Registered: 08/16/06
Posts: 268
Loc: shakopee, mn
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If you own a firearm there is NO reason to vote to the left. Plain and simple.
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#1400981 - 05/14/08 09:58 AM
Re: Now what???
[Re: glenn57]
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HotSpotOutdoors Specialist
Registered: 03/21/02
Posts: 5468
Loc: Chisholm, MN USA
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Ya know what, it is a sad thing to think it takes something like 9-11 to unite this country and even then it is only for a short period of time. Freakin politicians like the constant controversy, it is what they thrive on and the media don't help either. Then of course we buy into it and start all this bickering and give them what they want...confusion.
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#1401109 - 05/14/08 11:51 AM
Re: Now what???
[Re: Wade Joseph]
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Sr IceLeaders Family
Registered: 04/24/02
Posts: 1726
Loc: Twin Cities
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1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value
evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
Remember its Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him. I don't even think you believe what you're saying, Wade. One could go back to 2000 & make all sorts of select, random comparisons today to "prove" how right all of the "Bush Haters" are. Unless you actually believe all of the above is the fault of the DFL Congress, in which case you will need to be prescribed some serious partisan antibiotics!
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#1401126 - 05/14/08 12:01 PM
Re: Now what???
[Re: Maximum12]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 1253
Loc: Mars
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Say what you will Max, but here is the truth about my piece of America since the Democrats took control of congress
. Stubbed my toe on the end of the bed
. Needed to replace the breaks on the truck
. Woke up with numerous hangovers
. Had to mail a hefty check to the IRS
trust me, the list goes on and on
Gol danged liberals
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#1401135 - 05/14/08 12:06 PM
Re: Now what???
[Re: Maximum12]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 09/29/07
Posts: 1147
Loc: North
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1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value
evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
Remember its Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him. I don't even think you believe what you're saying, Wade. One could go back to 2000 & make all sorts of select, random comparisons today to "prove" how right all of the "Bush Haters" are. Unless you actually believe all of the above is the fault of the DFL Congress, in which case you will need to be prescribed some serious partisan antibiotics! all the above wade has listed is true. does that mean the Dem congress "caused" them? no. just like a repub president didn't "cause" them. its all part of a cycle. My worry comes when they try to so called fix these things. shudder  personally, i think im preferring them more and more to not to work together
Edited by tacklejunkie (05/14/08 12:38 PM)
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#1401193 - 05/14/08 12:52 PM
Re: Now what???
[Re: john.wells]
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Sr HotSpotOutdoors Family
Registered: 01/16/06
Posts: 5745
Loc: St. Paul, MN
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and especially Grimace who sits up at the podium. Ha, that's funny right there.
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"Making the decision to have a child is momentous. It is to decide forever to have your heart go walking around outside your body." ~Elizabeth Stone
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#1401671 - 05/14/08 07:32 PM
Re: Now what???
[Re: Sandmannd]
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Sr IceLeaders Family
Registered: 11/09/05
Posts: 1546
Loc: South Range, WI
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Your right Max, not all the Dems fault, just like everything else isn't Bush's fault. No I don;t beleive all those stats, but I posted them just like the Bush haters like to post a bunch of [PoorWordUsage] stats about Bush's term. Its ALL their faults and like Boilerguy said, they just can't get along. My solution, although it will never happen....2 term limit for every office, and we fire the lot of them and start over with some new faces! THEN maybe we can get a balance of left and right minds to compromise and at least meet near the center.
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