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#1399334 - 05/13/08 08:39 AM
Leader or no leader???
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Sr HotSpotOutdoors Family
Registered: 01/02/01
Posts: 3263
Loc: Willmar, MN
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When you're using something like a Rapala or a Shadrap, do you use a leader or just tie it right to the line? How about something heavier like a daredevil type spoon?
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#1399350 - 05/13/08 08:51 AM
Re: Leader or no leader???
[Re: BLACKJACK]
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Registered: 03/21/08
Posts: 65
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For myself it really depends upon what I'm targeting. Usually if I'm throwing Rapalas and I'm in pursuit of bass or walleye, I tie it directly to the line without a leader. When I use Daredevils, I'm targeting pike-so I will use a leader.
Same with trolling-always a leader if I'm looking for pike or in a body of water that has a healthy pike population-otherwise If I'm trolling for Rapalas for walleyes-no leader.
I prefer to fish without a leader if possible, but at 6-7 bucks a pop those X-Raps get tough to lose.
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#1399354 - 05/13/08 08:54 AM
Re: Leader or no leader???
[Re: Newcastle]
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HotSpotOutdoors Podcaster/Consulting Manager
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 11564
Loc: Lindstrom, MN
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My post would read exactly like NewCastle... If I did use a leader it would probably be a heavy 80 lb Floro leader.
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#1399418 - 05/13/08 09:30 AM
Re: Leader or no leader???
[Re: Newcastle]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 08/05/07
Posts: 1171
Loc: Woodbury, MN
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For myself it really depends upon what I'm targeting. Usually if I'm throwing Rapalas and I'm in pursuit of bass or walleye, I tie it directly to the line without a leader. When I use Daredevils, I'm targeting pike-so I will use a leader.
Same with trolling-always a leader if I'm looking for pike or in a body of water that has a healthy pike population-otherwise If I'm trolling for Rapalas for walleyes-no leader.
I prefer to fish without a leader if possible, but at 6-7 bucks a pop those X-Raps get tough to lose. agreed. It all depends on what I'm targeting. If I'm targeting pike, or know that there's pike in the same area, I will put a leader on. I've a few x-raps due to pike bite offs.
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#1399429 - 05/13/08 09:34 AM
Re: Leader or no leader???
[Re: kingfisher1]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 12/18/07
Posts: 682
Loc: Isanti
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Getting bit off is part of fishing. That being said I will leader up if I am targeting pike.
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#1399439 - 05/13/08 09:38 AM
Re: Leader or no leader???
[Re: Neighbor_guy]
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FishingMN Family
Registered: 05/30/06
Posts: 166
Loc: Cottage Grove, Minnesota
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Getting bit off is part of fishing. That being said I will leader up if I am targeting pike. But if your targeting Bass, and pike will usually go after bass lures, will ya still use a leader? Will bass bite if your using a leader with say a spinner or rapla or something similar? It seems when I am jigging for Bass, a pike almost always comes by and takes my jig...
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#1399464 - 05/13/08 09:51 AM
Re: Leader or no leader???
[Re: Alan]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 02/18/04
Posts: 589
Loc: Detroit lakes, mn us
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I agree with Newcastle.....
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#1399585 - 05/13/08 10:56 AM
Re: Leader or no leader???
[Re: Neighbor_guy]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 05/18/06
Posts: 453
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Getting bit off is part of fishing. That being said I will leader up if I am targeting pike. My friends and I had this debate a few years back... I keep a journal of my fishing outtings... So I tracked Leader vs no leader... Fishing with No leader, increased hook up percentages by 45%... Lures went "Out of tune" twice as fast on Leaders Bite offs were reduced to 2 out of 71, by using a super braid (Fireline alone was even better) *One key though was to make sure Rod Selection was appropriate... When using Fireline, with the zero stretch, I need a rod that's got a flexible forgiving tip (So as to not rip a lip) but has a strong back bone... Since doing a little rod switching I'm currently looking at a streak, running since last year of 137 "Toothy" fish caught without a bite off... Running 14 pound fireline on my Trolling rod.
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#1399602 - 05/13/08 11:03 AM
Re: Leader or no leader???
[Re: Dances with Walleye]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 08/05/07
Posts: 1171
Loc: Woodbury, MN
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good idea Dances. I do the same thing. I keep a log of my fishing trips, as well as hunting trips. It helps with getting to be a better hunter/fisherman and you can learn from your mistakes. PLus it helps with what works and what doesn't work.
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#1399612 - 05/13/08 11:07 AM
Re: Leader or no leader???
[Re: jwhjr]
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Sr FishingMN Family
Registered: 08/05/07
Posts: 1171
Loc: Woodbury, MN
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There goes that streak hahahaha. yup!
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#1399630 - 05/13/08 11:21 AM
Re: Leader or no leader???
[Re: kingfisher1]
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Sr IceLeaders Family
Registered: 01/17/07
Posts: 1601
Loc: FLake
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Usually I like using a heavier lead line to reduce bite offs. If I wanted to prevent bite offs, then I use wire leaders. I line the thin ones. They kink more, but I'd figure 10# line, matched to 10# wire is good.
I've also got some 15# tyger line that's thin and practically able to tie knots with it.
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#1399864 - 05/13/08 02:02 PM
Re: Leader or no leader???
[Re: slipperybob]
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Sr IceLeaders Family
Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 1835
Loc: Watertown, MN
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I usually have a leader on just because i rarely fish for long time. Most of my fishing happens after work and i only get a couple hours so if something isn't working i like to have the leader there to save time on switching lures and to prevent bite offs.
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